What exactly is a stall?

Hello everyone!

So, you probably experienced a stall once in your life. But what exactly is a stall? To find this out, we will first have to understand the four forces, or what makes a airplane fly.


The four forces


In aviation, the four forces are lift, weight, thrust and drag. In a unaccelerated flight, such as straight and level, all forces are in equilibrium. When a 2 ton heavy aircraft is flying level, the wings are producing exactly 2 tons of lift. Not more, not less. The powerplant, which could be anything from a piston engine to a jet engine to a rocket engine, produces enough thrust to get enough wind flowing over the wings, and drag is what slows the aircraft down.

Let’s explain them a bit more:
Lift is what pulls the aircraft up. It is made by the wing, which has a special shape. With this special shape, the air under the wing is slower than the air over the wing. A pressure difference is made, and since high pressure want to go to low pressure, the air pulls the wing, and so the aircraft up. However, what the wing also does is push air that went over the wing down. This is due to Bernoullis theory and Newton’s third law. What ultimately determines how much lift is made is not only speed, but the angle of attack. The angle of attack, or AOA, is the angle at which the relative wind hits the chord line ( a straight line that goes from the foremost point to the rearmost point of a wing). Since all this is complicated stuff where you need a lot of time to understand all of this, we won’t go as much into depth here. In normal flight, the air flows smoothly over the wing, making it possible for the wing to get pulled up and air pushed down. The higher the AOA is, the more lift can be produced, but only if there’s enough speed too. This is because pitch controls speed, and power controls pitch. A aircraft can pitch up but not climb when there’s no speed, and vice versa. However, on this curve is a point where the critical angle of attack(about 16 to 18 degrees on much aircraft) is, and when this point is reached, the air starts burbling over the air, and the air can neither be pushed down nor pulled up. As a result, the wing creates more drag than lift, and the aircraft falls. A pilot can recover from a stall by pushing the stick or yoke down to reduce the AOA. Full power is also required to lose the least amount of altitude. A unfortunately common problem is that the student pilot instinctively pulls the stick up, all the way to his stomach and only worsens the stall, and might even enter a spin. It takes time and guts to override your instincts, since it might seem a bad choice when you’re stalling at 1000 feet to push down rather than pull up. However, there is only one real way to recover form a stall, reduce the angle of attack. Many student pilots think that you can recover from a stall by adding power alone, but this isn’t true. You can get into a power on, departure stall with 100% power and still not recover as long as you don’t push that stick down.
When you’ve got lift and airspeed again, make sure to advance to 100% power (if not done yet) and climb at the Vx airspeed of your aircraft. What is Vx? Vx is basically a v speed where your aircraft will climb the most altitude per mile, rather than Vy, where you will climb the most altitude per minute. You should check and remember your aircraft’s V speed. For example, in a Cessna 172, Vx would be 60 knots and Vy at about 78. Vx is also used in short field takeoffs, where the aircraft should use all power and distance available to clear all obstacles.


The 3 types of stalls


There are 3 types of stalls (as far as I know), these are power on (departure), power off (approach) and spin.

Power on:
A power on stall is a stall where you stall with throttle advanced to wide open. This is common during departures. When climbing out at Vx, make sure you never go below your stall speed. You can find out your stall speed by looking into the V speed information of your aircraft.

Power off
A power off stall is a stall where you stall with throttle closed, sometimes with full flaps. This is common during approaches and short finals, mostly during the base or final leg. Make sure you never go below your VREF or stall speed. This can also happen when closing the throttle to soon when making a three point landing in a tail dragger.

Spin
A spin is a worsened type of stall. This can happen due to a variety of reason, including not applying enough right rudder against P-factor andd all the other left turning tendencies, which get worser at slow flight. In a spin, you, as the name says, spin. To recover, apply full rudder in the opposite direction of the spin, idle power, stick down, and once airspeed is alive again and you got stabilized, climb at Vx. Before you climb out, make sure to have your wings level! This is to get the most lift from your wings. Always check your ADI.


What else to remember


Many student pilots think that you can only stall when you’re at stall speed. But this is not true! Your stall speed can get lower, but only very slightly, for example in a power on stall where the propwash is hitting the root of the wings and gifting lift. But it can also get higher. In a 60 degree turn, you must increase your AOA a lot to not descend. This can crate up to 2 g-forces, making you and your plane double as heavy as it was just a few seconds ago. This can increase stall speed at about 1,5 times. For example, your stall speed can go from 60 to 90 knots in a 60 degree turn. Your stall speed can also differ, based on weight and weather.


That’s it! Now you know a bit more about stalls.
Thanks for reading!
Soft landings, and goodbye!

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Close. We use the acronym PARE for spin recoveries in the C172.

P - Power idle

R - Rudder opposite

A - Ailerons neutral

E - Elevators as needed

Once the spin is stopped, you can slowly start to bring the nose up and work in power to climb out and recover.

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Oh, sorry my bad. I corrected it

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Important to add. There’s more than just 3. Accelerated stalls, cross controlled, secondary stalls, etc just to name a few.

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Very nice topic! Interestingly enough, there are more types of stalls, such as a cross-control stalls, accelerated stalls, secondary stalls or elevator trim stalls. However, you typically wouldn’t practice most of these IRL unless you are training to be a flight instructor.

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Here’s a really good reference that explains the difference between Vx and Vy for any of those aspiring aviators out there!

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Stalls are categorized to improve operational awareness and training precision, but all stalls share a common aerodynamic root: exceeding the critical angle of attack. Naming types helps map scenarios and recovery strategies, but the core physics remain unified.

Hi, that’s not true. Lift is very much dependent upon speed as well as angle of attack.

Also, what the AOA provides to lift is asymmetry.

Total asymmetry is the key ingredient of lift.

If the camber is asymmetrical that adds to lift.
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Thanks for the nice link!

Thanks for pointing that out, actually meant to write “not only speed”, however what you said is true.

Nice thread and subject. With a smaller aeroplane I can get out of a stall in IF when I have enough altitude, but some days ago I was in A350 at FL380 and by accident I disengaged the autopilot.

As I wasn’t expecting it, my iPad was not leveled, nose went up, speed down and I found myself in a flatspin. I was completely unable to recover from that flatspin and before reaching 10k ft I aborted to avoid a vio in my stats.

Luckily I could respawn at the last saved point, but in real life, they are not so lucky. I’ll never forget that Air France Flight 447 from Rio to Paris, where they stalled over the Ocean and also couldn’t recover that bird. RIP all those souls.

Stalls are pretty cool and so is lift

Stalls will always be caused by exceeding the critical AoA as you mentioned, but a few more factors than speed and AoA go into lift and it’s fun to mess around with them.

I haven’t used IF in a while but I’m pretty sure in solo you can adjust the outside air temperature at will. Put a 172 a few thousand feet up at a normal cruise airspeed, and then go into the settings and increase the air temperature to max or min and see what happens to your IAS when you come back. It’s a cool demonstration of how air density changes (from temperature in this case) also impact the amount of lift you create at any given speed or AoA. Also makes you understand why aircraft are temperature-limited for departures on hot days sometimes.

Spot on explanation! Couldn’t have said it any better myself.

I’ve done high altitude stalls in training before. In a jet, low to the ground you can recover immediately with minimal altitude loss. Like you said, at high altitude it can take 4000+ feet to recover from a stall.

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That is a great counter example. But it’s still (seems a bit counterintuitive at first) directly related to, or caused by, exceeding the critical AOA:

When you increase temp, your IAS goes down (less dense air), which decreases your dynamic pressure for creating lift.

The result of that drop in lift means your motion trajectory drops downwards, which, with the same pitch attitude, precisely pushes your AOA beyond the critical angle.

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Didn’t intend to share as a counter example, just a further discussion on other factors that affect lift. Stalls are always caused by exceeding the critical AoA.

In flight, we can only change some of the variables of the lift equation- primarily velocity and AoA, along with wing shape (flaps) and wing surface area (some types of flaps).

When we reduce (vertical) lift generated by any other factor than AoA, think slowing down, banking, raising flaps, hotter (thinner) air, we must compensate with an increase in AoA to keep total lift equal to our weight. And, if we don’t, like you said -

So, our instinct is to increase our pitch, which increases AoA, and eventually, the airflow over the top of the wing generating the pressure difference begins to separate along the upper camber, and we have a sharp dropoff in lift produced through Bernoulli’s.

As you said it all comes back to AoA, the only lift equation factor where at a certain point, increasing it leads to a sharp, sudden loss in lift.

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I understand. It’s a great point and comment: it gets into how lift is “built”.