What are the most annoying type of people in infinite flight

[Dimitrios_TA]

So if departing from rws31l/r i do left traffic twice if i eant to go westbound?
Arrivaks?

[aatogamer]

To my understanding you can fly in the LGA TFR as long as you don’t land or depart from LGA

[Anthony_Gulluscio]

Here’s a photo of a delta aircraft going to sfo departing 31L, which is a westbound flight.

All arrivals into 31s can fly in normally, 22s is left traffic only, 4s is anything, and the 13s is always right traffic, using the Canarsie approach… not the full ils come.

[Anthony_Gulluscio]

It’s an airspace restriction, and also that doesn’t apply to aircraft below 10,000 feet. Either way, LGA literaly can’t operate with jfk traffic close to it.

[aatogamer]

Irl it is, correct. However in IF it’s an aircraft restriction and flying in the TFR in a widebody is not reportable offense even if it isn’t in accordance of irl procedures.

[Anthony_Gulluscio]

Sorry, I’ll rephrase. It’s an airspace restriction for aircraft flying through the airspace larger than a b757/a321, In which I only report those larger than that. I don’t report anyone smaller since it’s allowed in game

[aatogamer]

@Anthony_Gulluscio

larger than a b757/a321

Oh I forgot to add that it applies only to widebodies to my message, sorry

But it is an interesting topic, it isn’t mentioned anywhere if it’s for the airspace or just the airport.
I strongly believe it applies only for the airport.

• the TFR is circular, while airspaces are not. And the ranges vary and are not in accordance with airspace ranges.
• the runway closure TFRs also apply for only the airport it’s in, not every airport in its airspace or the TFR. I don’t see why aircraft restrictions would differ.

Mind if I ask where have you got the info that the TFR applies for the airspace specifically in IF?

[CitrusAviatrix]

@Anthony_Gulluscio

It’s an airspace restriction for aircraft flying through the airspace larger than a b757/a321, In which I only report those larger than that.

the TFR in-game only applies for traffic landing or departing LGA, not flying through the airspace

In real life, the approach corridor for LGA runway 4 is only a few miles off the departure end of the 31s at JFK. Hence, to avoid traffic on arrival into La Guardia, JFK departures perform an immediate left turn. (often called the “Canarsie Climb” or “Breezy Point Climb” as depicted on the JFK5 SID)

JFK5 SID

[W0X0F]

Here is an overview of N90 airspace flows when there are strong west winds requiring use of the 31’s at JFK, as well as LGA 31 arrivals / 04 departures and KEWR in a north flow.

I marked this up for another thread a couple weeks ago. The red line from JFK indicates how a straight out breaches LGA/EWR corridors and overflies Manhattan’s Financial District.

The JFK 31 “straight out” is not prohibited in IF but you’ll never see it IRL.

[aatogamer]

@CitrusAviatrix

In real life, the approach corridor for LGA runway 4 is only a few miles off the departure end of the 31s at JFK. Hence, to avoid traffic on arrival into La Guardia, JFK departures perform an immediate left turn. (often called the “Canarsie Climb” or “Breezy Point Climb” as depicted on the JFK5 SID)

@W0X0F

Here is an overview of N90 airspace flows when there are strong west winds requiring use of the 31’s at JFK, as well as LGA 31 arrivals / 04 departures and KEWR in a north flow.

I think @Anthony_Gulluscio knows irl operations pretty well, he lives next to JFK.

Our topic of discussion was whether the IF TFR applies for the airport or the airspace : )

[CitrusAviatrix]

@CitrusAviatrix

the TFR in-game only applies for traffic landing or departing LGA, not flying through the airspace

its for the airport

[aatogamer]

Yeah, got that cleared up. Thanks

[W0X0F]

@aatogamer

I think @Anthony_Gulluscio knows irl operations pretty well, he lives next to JFK.

Our topic of discussion was whether the IF TFR applies for the airport or the airspace : )

Visual overview is for the benefit of all participants, especially those who may not be familiar with airspace.

IF TFR applies for airport, not airspace.

[Anthony_Gulluscio]

Thanks all. And @CitrusAviatrix and @W0X0F, I’m well aware of how jfk operates, I live next to it lol. Guess that automatically makes me a realism geek, hence the conversation above

[W0X0F]

@Anthony_Gulluscio

Thanks all. And @CitrusAviatrix and @W0X0F, I’m well aware of how jfk operates, I live next to it lol. Guess that automatically makes me a realism geek, hence the conversation above

All good, @Anthony_Gulluscio - I love the realism and there’s nothing geeky about it. I know you understand JFK procs from your post, never doubted that for a second. My post, as well as @CitrusAviatrix’s, was for benefit of others with an interest.

I have IRL experience flying into JFK, LGA, and EWR, as a professional pilot. When pilots shoot straight out of JFK 31s (without turning left to CRI) I cringe.

[Anthony_Gulluscio]

Or turning north lol. Thanks

[TheRealOne]

You know what cool is?

Actually using Heavy and Super because of your aircraft’s ETOW and not just because you’re flying an aircraft that can be heavy 😎😎😎😎

[Delta174J]

LOLL fr though

[Anthony_Gulluscio]

Talked to said streamer, and no controller. = permission :P

[aatogamer]

Isn’t it based on MTOW and wake turbulence tho…