Vertical take off speed violation

[Anthony_Goulding]

Just a general question! I took off this evening from LHBP in the F22… I did take off vertically climbing at speed, as there was traffic ahead. something I’ve done a few times, however got reported and downgraded from G4 to G2! did I miss something? Or should I be ashamed for breaking the rules?

[Tyler]

How fast were you going? Controllers can report anybody flying more than 300kts in a controlled airspace.

[Trey]

Personally, I would report at 350+ Knots.

On another note, @Anthony_Goulding, did you want to appeal the violation, or are you asking on how not to repeat it?

[Kedz]

I highly suggest staying at a controlled speed that’s suitable in keeping seperation. if traffic was ahead, you might of been going too fast for a busy airspace thus got reported, Pm the controller and ask why you got reported, that can stop you doing it again.

[Tyler]

In my opinion it all comes down to airspace traffic. If the aircraft maintains a speed at which it is disrupting traffic patterns and at an excessive speed, I see it neccesary to report. 300 knots is just a rough outline, but an airport like LHBP (which had a lot of traffic today), an F-22 going vertical and 400 knots seems like enough to me.

[Anthony_Goulding]

I as doing around the 400kts vertically, so I guess who ever reported took it very seriously! Just thought a nice reminder about reducing speed would have been nice I guess… worked hard for that G4

[Trey]

I understand your frustration. The good news is that in 7 days after the violation was issued, you will be grade 4 again. Level 3 violations will reset you to grade 2 to prevent you from accessing the expert server, but after that expires, you will be back where you were.

[ToasterStroodie]

I was your controller. Please PM me if you wish to understand/discuss this further.

[Ace_YukiNeko]

Just heads up. Don’t do any aerobatics maneuver, like vertical takeoff that you did or inverted flight…etc in near airport. IF will give you automatic violations no matter if ATC is at airport or not by doing those.

[Tyler]

Yeah, violations can really stink after working hard for a grade. The way I see it is that a violation is just a friendly reminder that you’re on the expert server, and that any moves you make can and will affect the other aircraft around you. I would check out this cool post by one of our staff members on fighter jet etiquitte in an active airspace.

@Tyler_Shelton

Instructions, sequence, and traffic volume should always dictate your speed and cause increased awareness of your surroundings.

Controllers are authorized and will ghost pilots flying at excessive speeds in a controlled ATC environment. This may be the result of not maintaining your assigned sequence, disrupting others, or requiring unreasonable instruction due to your excessive speeds (Ex. Requesting ILS approach at 850kts).

Fighter Aircraft Etiquette

We now have autopilot for fighters. Surely you’ll want to fly them too, so what’s expected of you on the Expert Server? December 2017 update is cleared for takeoff. There is currently no system limit on speeds for fighter aircraft, however a reasonable speed should always be maintained when in a controlled airspace, whether tower or approach. As a general rule 250-300kts should never be exceeded when under the control of ATC. The following are a good rule of thumb and the recommended milit…

[Anthony_Goulding]

I kinda realised that now, I’ll keep to my homework from now on to e sure I stay out of trouble! Thanks for your opinion, it had helped

[Anthony_Goulding]

Thank you so much for this, I’m certainly more aware now

[Anthony_Goulding]

I’d only appeal it if I thought it was harsh, but I guess I was in the wrong based on all the comments so far, maybe a reminder would have been better with a request to reduce speed