VA and prospects

I just didn’t see a place for unbias conversations to happen about virtual airlines the pros, cons, or overall experience not only by current members but also a place for people who are cluelessly interested to ask questions and gain knowledge before applying

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Hi @wepwawet , VA advertising on the forum outside of VA threads for multiple reasons. One way to find feedback on a VA would be their thread and you can ask questions here. Alternatively, you can use the link below to view all of the certified VAs, hope this helps!

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Not looking for advertisement just a central area that people who are interested in VA as a whole can ask questions to people already in them without the brand bias of advertised posts

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This would be the thread of a VA you’re interested in joining. You can ask questions about the VA and staff and pilots can answer them

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I think you are missing the concept. This thread is for people who dont know anything about VA. For instance i am new to IF i have been playing only a few months when i first heard about VA i was excited but i spent 3 hours just looking then up to find out i needed to be a grade 3 for MOST of them. Not to mention the countless times i found a VA that was only for msfs. It took almost 250 hours of in game flight time i was so excited to get my grade 3 to be able to join a VA but i didnt have any clue there were tests or what to study or know about flying there was no guide for it. Yea IF has guides and tutorials but imagine spending 250 hours to reach grade 3 to fail an entry exam for a VA because you had no clue how to prepare for. Now you could spend hours searching here and the web and waiting and asking each individual VA or you could have a centralized place for general inquest from new inexperienced people to interact with veterans of flying to get a basis general answer to help them instead of VA brand warfare and everyone trying to sell why they are the best. I don’t care about your crew center if i never get past knowing general knowledge of aviation. This helps people from all skill levels to get on the same general page and saves hours of research and finding outdated duplicate VA pages on here or worse unrelated VA pages for completely different games on google it asks for general knowledge it takes to be a better flyer and know things that MOST VA will ask for to be common knowledge and not some secret you have to post on 50 VA topics to get answers to

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I see what you are going at. It sounds like you are grade 3 so you are eligible to join most VA’s. I would suggest using the VA database that @Oliver_P linked earlier. If you go on there you can filter it for requirements to join, (tests, hours, etc.).I’ve found it to be very helpful and super simple. If you are still learning about aviation I would suggest reading the articles Infinite Flight publishes about how to use the simulator, or you can study by finding a legit source on the internet. All of these are good ways to get into a VA.

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Send me a PM and I could see if I could help you get better at your piloting knowledge so you can prepare.

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Same for me. I was up all night looking for a VA to join. Most of them were Grade 3 as you said. So I just waited for some time, flew a few flights, and then I became Grade 3. Regarding the exam, I would recommend you check out the #ground-school category that has many tutorials or, check out the Infinite Flight YouTube Channel that has video tutorials.

I would also suggest just coming on the community daily and checking out some topics, as you may learn a thing or two from them.

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I see where you are coming from now. Another place you can look is the IFVARB Activity Check: IFVARB Virtual Airline / Organization Activity & Highlights [Oct 21 → Jan 22] or the IFVARB questions thread: IFVARB Feedback And Questions Thread - #1283 by lhr_pilot but this may not be as useful.

If this isn’t useful, feel free to ask any questions here, or PM me; as I am part of the IFVARB leadership, I’d like to think I know what I am talking about :)

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See that’s the kind of stuff that needs to be in a group like this. A centralized area that people who have no clue can find it because as a “casual” what may seem common knowledge or easy to find or smoke to you guys i would have never found that thread you linked me too of the most active VA’s. And no casual person looking at the website is going to know what they are doing or where to even start. Consider this the thread for dummies who have no clue where to start you guys have got to understand your target base ismt the people who already know it’s the ones who don’t but are curious enough to try. The information you guys just shared should be in one central place that’s easy to get to and search for people who want to learn more. The same way IF tutorials are in one place info about VA need to be in one place and a lot easier to understand and get to.

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And the tutorials were cool but i watched all those and i promise you 90% of them have nothing to do with what’s on VA written exams. And the ones that do are so obscure i just want to make it easier for the next regular joe like me that comes through to get into aviation and get into a VA you know just make this information more easily accessible to the guy who may not be an AVGEEK

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The IFVARB database is very easily accessible

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You should be able to find the most information required here:

@wepwawet ,

I also share your wish to have a very accessible place where anyone can easily view objective information and feedback about VAs. We at IFVARB (Board which creates policies for VAs and approves them) want to provide the most info possible to make applying and participating in VAs easier and more fun for everyone.

To address the point about objective VA info - our website, ifvarb.com , provides the full, current list of approved VAs (these are VAs that are Infinite Flight - only, and meet a standard of quality that ensures you’ll have a good VA structure and experience to work with). This database can be found on the “VA/VO database” tab at the top of of website.

In this database, you can filter VAs by many different things, such as grade required (which is important to you!), minimum age required, and a few other specific things. This lets you narrow down your search a little bit and not feel as overwhelmed by the VA category here on the IFC. Each VA listing has a direct link to their IFC thread as well as their personal website.

To address your point about subjective VA experience, pros, cons, etc… - There is no centralized area where people can share their personal experiences about VAs. This is solely to prevent abuse of such a system through advertising, fake reviews, slander, etc… you’d be surprised. Of course, VAs gain reputations through word of mouth and other ways.

My suggestion to you as a newcomer looking for personal feedback about VAs past branded topics and statistics- reach out to the CEOs!. In our database and on each and every VA topic, the CEO for that VA is listed. You are more than welcome to privately message them and ask for more information about the VA experience. Or, ask them if they have a pilot who you can message on the IFC to ask about their experience. CEOs will likely be more than happy to give you whatever info you need and point you in the right direction.

As for general knowledge needed for VA exams- this is usually knowledge one will pick up while learning to fly on the training and expert servers. VAs will expect you to be able to fly competently on the Expert Server (unless they have lower requirements), as their pilots’ behavior represents them as a VA in IF. Almost all knowledge can be found in the flying guide that Infinite Flight provides.

If you have more questions, I’ll be happy to help.

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We’re not allowed to publicly recruit or encourage users to join our/other VA’s but if you ask me, flying without a VA isn’t as fulfilling as when representing one. Everything above is great feedback regarding one that fits you best. Enjoy!

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Hey mate I can understand what it’s like being new to the IF Community and wanting to know more especially about VA’s as it makes the overall experience in game so much better. A lot of VA’s do require you to be grade 3 before applying but there are quite a few that only need Grade 1 and provide guidance on becoming better while still being able to fly within the VA. Like mentioned reach out to the CEO’s and ask them questions you might have we’ll always be happy to have a chat with you

Again guys not looking for anyone to advertise or recruit just looking for a way not to spend hours looking for information without an idea of what it is in supposed to be looking for. I know you guys have been on the aviation side for a while and alot of this stuff you giys are mentioning is super helpful now that im immersed and invested in it but it is not helpful for inexperienced users who have bo idea where to even begin. Its the equivalent of me saying go to the NAIC website to learn about insurance while your at the car dealership trying to get car insurance. Im not asking state farm and allstate to advertise or recruit customers or anything i just want someone to say hey this is the general idea of how insurance works. Again all the onformation being shared is great amd i appreciate it. But it seems counter productive to not entice recruiting or coercing but then telling people just trying to understand what VA are and receive general information to go speak to VA CEOS who clearly have a defined bias to help their VA grow. A centralized area for general information that is not individually specific to any 1 VA but gives casual prospects a reason to want to learn more or contact VA’s individually