Unusually steep take off?

I just came across this picture on Facebook.
A 717 departing from Portland - International.
This looks like an unusually steep take off. Or is this within limits?
What would the VS be at this angle?


Not my picture.

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No idea, imagine the tail strike though

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Maybe bcuz there are a lot of mountains

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You’re fast! :)
It looks identical!
Great job!
But WOW! VS 9,000!!!???
Would that be within limits?

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This looks like 22°.

I don’t know why but that usually seems to be the trend in most 717s check out other takeoff photos

You can’t really see the angle in the video.

On the picture the aircraft is still so low so it probably hasn’t gained that much speed yet.
It looks like it could stall at any time. But looks can be deceiving of course. I could be underestimating the power of a 717! :)
Around 9,000 VS just seems very high.

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Found this one as well.
So either it’s sort of common (for Delta) or it’s the same ‘crazy’ pilot! LOL! :)

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If you study the vertical speed on flight tracker apps you can see they manage a 5000 VS for a few seconds.

Yours is inaccurate on the basis of VS.

Same pitch =|= same VS. This is due to speed.

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That looks like roughly 20 degrees. The target speed is V2 + 10 so they will pitch accordingly to maintain that speed.
That should somewhere between 3 000 and 6000fpm but that’s just a guess, there is no way to know how fast they were climbing.

NOTE: that kind of V/S is extremely high and rare.

Would you say this is a normal take off or a clos tail strike?

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Considering that the aircraft is on initial climb, I’d say the VS is somewhere between 3.000 and 4.000 ft/min.


@Chatta290 Looks quite normal.

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That looks significantly less than the first picture

I know it feels like an E-145 climbs that steep. If imagine a b717 isn’t too different.

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I’ve seen 717s takeoff countless times and they all seem like that. I’ve also seen CRJ, ERJ, and a few MD-80s takeoff like that.

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@Chatta290 Look at that wing flex! I agree with @hmkane I see CRJ’s and Embraer’s take off with such an angle. They don’t seem to hold that pitch for very long though.

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