UNICOM: Improper use = Violations

Yes. We need this

I think taxiing to parking would be helpful too, as we currently can’t state our intentions if that is our plan post landing.

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I don’t believe we need a push back option for unicom. My reason: If a pilot is at the gate doing their preflight, the NAV lights should be on. Once preflight is completed, the pilot would (should) turn the BEACON on and begin the pushback. The anti-collision light (beacon) serves the purpose of letting the other aircraft know the plane is about to begin moving and start engines. Its up the the PIC to avoid pushing back into other aircraft.

I completely agree that we need a “taxi to Parking” option, though.


Removed due to not wanting to be a donkey.

But there would have to be some form of latency so that you don’t get the warning or violations emediatly. At least not while in the air as, although the expert server (which is my 2:ND home these days…) is for experts only even we can have problems managing wind corrections, glide slope, speed and so on at the same time while trying to push the button for the correct UNICOM anouncement.
It is a great Idea and I support it but I think it should be ground only, at lest to begin with.

@Mags885. FYI… LOL

Except that many IRL airlines turn on the landing lights when they are about to enter the runway for either Takeoff or crossing which is not the case in that chart.

@ErikC17… MaxSez: Me I Use the AIM for the Rules not my observation.
The FAA also recommend Landing Lites on in flight as a Safty of Flight matter unless they distract. Just the Facts Pls… G’day

((“The Pilots Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge” free from is the Pilots Bible, I recommend it for everyone.)

I know haha, the comment was saying the beacon is to alert folk the engines are starting, running or shutting down. I just didn’t want to be a know it all haha

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Mhm I hear you but the fact still remain. Pilots, at least from What Ive sen do this procedure. The landing lights aren’t even an ICAO requierment below 10.000 feet. You could just ingore them if you want to…

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@ErikC17… MacSez: In US Controlled Airspace the FAR is the Controlling regulation. In this case the AIM extract should clarify the issue.
Ignor at your own and others risk Bold Pilot particularly in congested airspace.

AIM 4-3-23…”The FAA has a voluntary pilot safety program, Operation Lights On, to enhance the see-and-avoid concept. Pilots are encouraged to turn on their landing lights during takeoff; i.e., either after takeoff clearance has been received or when beginning takeoff roll. Pilots are further encouraged to turn on their landing lights when operating below 10,000 feet, day or night, especially when operating within 10 miles of any airport, or in conditions of reduced visibility and in areas where flocks of birds may be expected, i.e., coastal areas, lake areas, around refuse dumps, etc. Although turning on aircraft lights does enhance the see-and-avoid concept, pilots should not become complacent about keeping a sharp lookout for other aircraft. Not all aircraft are equipped with lights and some pilots may not have their lights turned on. Aircraft manufacturer’s recommendations for operation of landing lights and electrical systems should be observed.”

G’day my last comment this thread.

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To be honest, I see what you are saying, but sometimes at KPIT for example there is no one…

Not to say that you should not notarize, but sometimes it may be excessive to violate people for that, esspecialy missing one or two touch and goes, but that is just me…

Not a bad idea. As long as I don’t get violations for accidentally hitting crosswind instead of downwind (did that last night, lol) that’s fine by me!

Once again, I hear you and never said I don’t use them, but the fact remains, rules from the U.S do not always applie to the rest of the world. Although things are strongly encurraged for safteys sake. Same goes for the 250kts under 10.000 feet rule. In the U.S, yea sure it should be there, but that should not be the case for the rest of The World if it is not supposed to be there.

Keep flying by the book and the U.S rules if you whish, but don’t expect others to do the same when flying in places where those rules don’t applie (but could still be recomended).


This should only be applied to expert server since training and casual server are meant for less experienced pilots

It would be great, however, an AI based unicom acting like it’s a real controller operating would be even better, it would increase realism landing at all airports not usually ATC operated.

@ErikC17. MaxSez: Ballics Eric, I’ve flown all over the world… ICIO sets the standard the world follows with only minor variations. The FAA FAR conforms. (I’ve used the FAR & FLIP’s worldwide RW with violation)

IF standard flight rules follow the FAR with minor variations due to the nature of the beast. Like it or not for this platform follow the FAR, know and understand the IF variation of the rules of the road. There’s no argument here just a mind set. Moving on and mine is bigger than yours😂
G’day, last Topic this thread…

Nice now it forces me to not be lazy

I like this idea, but I also wonder whether part of the issue with Unicom silence could be that you seem to have to manually tune in after spawning, whereas it connects you automatically to ATIS or Ground when there is active ATC.

In my opinion this is useless. Everybody literally sees anything that you do on the radar and why bother making UNICOM Announcements, if there is nobody on frequency?

Because it’s good practice? Because someone could be inbound and want some situational awareness?

There isn’t any excuse for not using unicom, even if there’s No one else on channel how do you know someone won’t spawn in at any moment for some touch and goes (requiring little to no set up)?

I get it, ignorance is bliss. But if you’re on a real life active airport - you communicate everything. If you are not trying to be as close to the real thing on expert then I suggest you head back to Casual or TS.