This is just an observation but what is it with these Pilots who tune into this frequency as said in the topic just to ignore Tower and ground or even approach or departure commands
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When it says âunknownâ it just means theyâre not tuned to a frequency. Unfortunately, on the training server, you canât really do anything about these people.
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Then I wonder how we supposed to be learning on the training server with these limitations especially because the training server has no repercussions based on either ATC movements or Pilot movements
Open an ATC tracking thread if you wish to join IFATC. Youâll get the right people wanting to help you and support you along your journey. Youll get the hang of it easily! đ€
For example Iâm open in Boston today and the pilot spawned in near runway 4 left which is in use with departures and arrivals so I asked the pilot to push back expecting runway 4 left and they just proceeded to Runway 15 right⊠so the question is whoâs learning in this scenario⊠so is the pilot supposed to wait until they are on expert server to be ghosted because they didnât follow directions OR because itâs the training server their behavior changes based on the server they are on
My attitude needs to be adjusted before I try for i f a t c⊠I have over 56,000 operations not to say that all of them were the best operations but it might give an indication that I do know what Iâm doing when I control, anyway I think I might be getting a little off topic I just want to know how to combat the issue of Pilots being tuned into the frequency as set it in this topic
Remember itâs only automatic. As long as you donât spam them or give them incorrect instructions, youâll be fine! Iâm the same, not helpful for me when I have anger issues! But Iâve got over them! I passed my written test today! (There is a written and practical test)
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On the expert server they would be allowed to land as if they were on Unicom, so you can treat them as such. We only will ghost a pilot if they interfere with another aircraft. There are various technical reasons why a pilot would not be able to tune in. If they donât respond to one or two on guards, then let them be. Theyâre not hurting anyone.
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You make a fine I F ATC controller just donât be strict as I am with your airspace đđđ
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Trust me, itâs not as difficult as it sounds, as long as you roughly know the airspace and donât ask for them to contact 100nm away, youâre fineâŠ
Or you can just open a tracking thread without applying for IFATC đ€đ€«
Thanks because I thought opening a tracking thread was exclusively for air traffic controllers applying for IF ATC
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Itâs one of those âwhat itâs made forâ, but the only time youâll really be able to get a true opinion on your controlling skills, with people who know what theyâre doing, for the members who donât want to be IFATC, but a time to time hobby.
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Exactly traffic at my airport doesnât have to be hectic I just want great PICâs who want great controllersđ
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This is a long shot but may be in 2020 theyâll give the air traffic controllers on the training server ATIS so we can tell the pilot in command which runways are in use and for what purpose
One word: abuse.
Itâs just not practical especially since many controllers will overload it with unnecessary NOTAMs and half the pilots wonât even listen anyways. IFATC will be your best (and only) shot for ATIS. :)
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As Iâve said in previous post the training server only trains you with the very basics we donât have all the tools needed to provide the best training experience and a better experience for our PICâs. The purpose of the post was to show that on the training server there loopholes such as the example that I gave in a previous comment on this post
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For example if we are on a training server as an air traffic controller and we do not want pattern work we have to state that as a broadcast message which atis would do for us and then when youâre on the expert server if there is no pattern work the pilot in command canât even choose that option but on the training server even if we give them that broadcast message that there is no pattern work it still shows up for them when theyâre ready for departure therefore not providing the best customer service then itâs possible that the pilot in command thinks we as a controller on training server donât know what weâre doing
The struggle you experience at Training server will not be over when you become IFATC and control on Expert.
The struggle is just different.
On Training you have pilots who are clearly there to disrupt good game play. And you canât police them. That is frustrating.
On Expert you have the ability to Report, which comes with a huge responsibility. You need to somehow work out who is well willing, but just doesnât know and who is being an idiot. You need to work out who to help a bit and who to report without warning. And all this on a busy airport with little time to think, where pilots expect quality service and donât want to wait. Denying someone their access to Expert for 7 days is a biggie and you will get challenged by pilots who âwere ghosted to no reasonâ and who demand an answer just as youâre about to go to bed, or to school. He calls you incompetent and you have to stay professional. Speaking of frustrating.
You said it: âattitude is importantâ. Take it from me: attitude is everything.
Trust me: Training Server is not all bad. Sometimes itâs good not to have that power.
Seen you on Expert! đ
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The explanation was very well put very articulate I appreciate that. You see me on the expert server hopefully following directions Iâve never been ghosted or reported yet at all since Iâve started Infinite Flight hopefully I can keep it that wayđđ. I give my training server controllers the same respect as I would expert controllers when I am the pilot in command
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waitâŠso if lets say im on final for RW xx on the ES and the controller tells me to go around but because of connection problems I didnât get it when I touch down will I be met wit a ghost?
any answer will be appreciated by anyone :)