I started playing infinite flight a couple months ago and have plenty of landings done. I know most procedures. whenever I land and try and butter I always either come down to hard or have too much speed. I bring it down nice and easy and I flare but it always seems like I smack into the ground. But if I raise my flare my plane starts to go back up. I have my speed just right but it seems like i’m struggling to get my plane down and not have such hard landings. any help ?
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Hello,
What speed do you normally go during landings? Have you used ILS approaches? Those help most of the time.
Hey! Do you have any of the replays of these incidents? Also like @canton asked what is your normal approach speed/aircraft type?
If you flare too much or too quickly, you’ll go upwards, stall (or close to it) and then break your passengers’ necks.
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Practice
Practice
Practice
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I agree with @ybtl.aviation about practice, practice, practice.
But for things to look for when building this control experience:
Pay attention to the FPV (the little circle on the HUD). It’s the most intuitive, easiest way to see how your vertical speed plays into a smooth landing. If you get the FPV on the horizon line just as you touch down, you will never ever bounce.
As you descend to the runway your FPV will be below the horizon line for you to be able to get down to the runway.
Carefully control pitch to manipulate your FPV from being below the horizon to coming just to it as you are about to touch down.
As for speed. If you are too fast, a small error of the FPV below the horizon will tend to bounce you more. Being at the right speed keeps your FPV more forgiving as far as bounce when it is off (down) a bit.
If you are too slow, you won’t have enough energy to move the FPV up to the horizon position.
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This is a great suggestion, the FPV in HUD is a great tool.
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If you new and struggling the only remedy is the hud…nothing more
When you are smacking down do you think it’s because you flared to late, or you are losing too much speed and the plane is falling down?
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Don’t worry about the landing being absolutely smooth. They are not always going to be and don’t need to be. Just make it normal, nothing special or terrible.
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Always try to shoot for at LEAST the TDZ (Touchdown Zone). Safety is the number one priority, and comfort comes second. This doesn’t mean slam the aircraft into the ground, but it also doesn’t mean glide down half the runway looking for a 1fpm absolute butter. Then, immediately followed by max autobrake and porpoising the entire length of the runway and overrunning it. Not that you are doing it, I just see it sometimes.
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Watch your speed with the ILS, since it sometimes does not incorporate the current glideslope with your speed super well. This can show up when the aircraft is flaring over the runway, and if you are on the faster side of things, the aircraft will start to glide over the runway or even climb *(due to the APPR making a to aggressive flare.
I’m going to be honest I am tired and to lazy to write more, so this is what I got for you. Hope this helps out. These are some of the fundamentals of a final approach. I would recommend checking out the user guide for more instructions in regard to landings. :)
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I recommend looking at your V/S while on the final moments before touchdown, usually the lower that V/S the smoother the landing. To get the VS as low as possible, while on your flare, don’t be afraid of applying some throttle, once you’re 50-10 feet above the runway you can go ahead and idle it out, but on 200-50 apply a generous amount of power and as long as that V/S is below 400 FPM, it should be a decently smooth landing.
Cheers
Chris
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Ryanair: Hey there! Did anybody say my name!
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I think that I’m losing too much speed and the plane just falls
It depends on the aircraft. If i’m flying a smaller plane like the A321 or the 737 I’ll typically aim for 125-135 knots depending on the weight of the plane. for bigger planes I tend to keep it between 130- 140.
A thing that helped me a lot is, when I’m using ILS approach, when I disengage the A/P, pay attention to the Glideslop and the flight director, and when the GPWS calls 30-20 ft, set throttle idle and maintain the FPV at the horizon
What you could try is at about 20 feet you bring your power to around 20-30 percent depending on the plane and when you hear 10 you pull back nice and slowly not fast tho and try and hold it as long as you can
Thats too slow bigger planes tend to be from 150-160 smaller like the a321 and 737 usually is around 145 for me. I see the problem that your having with the 737 you are using full flaps on them on the 737 its 30 percent flaps not 40, 40 is too much flaps because by time your around 20-30 feet you would let go of the throttle and be going 85 knots by time you flare because the Boeing tends too lose speed fast inside the game. So just use 30 percent flaps also use 15-20 percent trim that will keep a lot more speed and lift for your landings then you can get that butter good luck. iCloud Idk if it will let you see it but that was my landing in the 800.
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Have you tried the earlier suggestion of just focusing on the FPV - controlling pitch to put it as close to on the horizon as possible?
Again, definitely if you can do that you will not bounce from hitting the runway too hard.
But I’ll go further than that. Try to forget watching airspeed directly. Instead adjust the mixture of power and pitch so that your FPV is under control. You’ll get used to a certain safe angle range it can stay below the nose mark.
If the FPV starts dropping too much below the nose mark, add some power; remove power if it gets too close to the nose.
Use the FPV for everything, for practice, both IAS control (again, FPV angle below the nose can’t be too much or too little), and VS low on touch down.
Just to be clear, there are two reference lines you are comparing the FPV to:
1)the earth’s horizon (VS control)
2)the aircraft nose (IAS control) (edit: this is the way the Wright Brothers did it)
I seen your other reply with landing speeds, the speeds for the 321 are okay but I would really go for 135ish, and for widebody I like to touch down around 145kts maybe 140kts if im light on cargo. I know we try to be super realistic but we have to adapt to the limitations of the game.
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Yesterday i did Atlanta to Seattle and i landed at 165 in a a350