I know you can’t wait to welcome the pilots on final of the airport you are but if you could just check the airport information and watch out about approach open frequencies, then it would be nice if you patiently wait for the aircraft coming into the ILS/GPS path of final approach before telling pilots to contact you.
It makes the controlling session more enjoyable for approach controllers, thank you !
On approach, it’s always the radar controller that hands them over. Tower controllers have no control over the aircraft or what it’s doing until radar has cleared them and handed them off. ATIS usually has no effect on the radar controllers job unless certain procedures are being required.
Wait really? So even if Tower puts runway 07L only at an airport for landing in ATIS radar can tell an aircraft to land on 07R for example? That seems very odd and like it would mess up the flow, seems super counterproductive
Radar has the final authority on what runways to use. 3.6.1 of the ATC Manual States “You must not dictate to the Radar Controller which runways should be used.”
Although someone on local usually controls the ATIS, the approach controller can decide what runways to use. This can mean changing the ATIS if necessary if the radar controller deems the current runways in use unfit. Really, it’s mainly approach that’s handling the flow of aircraft into the airport, and the main control by the tower is departure flow. Another thing to be noted is the ATIS doesn’t need to be 100% followed. For example, for some beneficial reason, the radar controller needs to deviate from ATIS for an arrival, there is no issue in doing so, though it is good to communicate that. Since we communicate in real-time through Discord, we have minimal to no issues with regarding runways in use, and any changes made can starting take effect really quickly.
Finally, also according to 3.6.1 in the manual, " In addition, once aircraft have been handed over to Tower, runway changes should be kept to a minimum for instrument arrivals." so mainly only if it’s really really necessary to do. This means tower can still give runway changes.
Nope, we can deviate from it. Even for departures, we are allowed to do so as after all, we are the ones who set the ATIS. Also, you don’t have to request a runway that’s in the ATIS (obviously that’s highly preferred). Since we are a service we can try accommodating other runways as a request even if they aren’t on the ATIS. I don’t believe it’s in the manual anywhere, but Tyler has said this himself.
This has happened before. For example at NZAA, controllers were able to make an aircraft safely land (deps were halted temporarily) on 23L while all other planes was departing/arriving on 5R (opposite direction!) even when it was the hub (very busy!) because of a fuel emergency (they probably wouldn’t have made 5R).