Hello all you cool cats and kittens. There have been many times in the real world where I’ve heard ATC give pilots an advisory of the position of another aircraft in the vicinity when both are in a VFR tower pattern. I’ve also heard it when radar controllers clear aircraft for the visual approach and advise them of the aircraft type they are trailing, the distance, and the position in relation to one another.
As illustrated by the following image, N4EM had requested a runway change to 14L. ATC says “N4EM, enter right downwind runway 14L, number 2, traffic to follow is on left downwind”. There are two jets on the left downwind and N4EM isn’t sure who he is following. ATC wants him to follow N1TW. If the command read “N4EM, enter right downwind runway 14L, number 2 behind the CRJ200 on left downwind”, N4EM would be certain to who he is sequenced behind.
Here is a real world example of this scenario 39 seconds in
At airports with intersecting runways, like Boston (KBOS), I believe it is critical for the pilots to know what the traffic on the intersecting runways are doing. In the example below, ATC instructed the traffic on 15R to line up and wait whilst the traffic on 4R was cleared for takeoff. To reassure DLVA128 that traffic was going to wait until he crossed the intersection before start moving, a takeoff command like “DLVA128, Runway 4R, cleared for takeoff, traffic will hold in position on the crossing runway” would suffice.
Here is a real world example of this scenario 11 seconds in
There are times when aircrafts will be VFR in an IFR airspace or times when ATC clear an aircraft for the visual approach whilst trailing another aircraft. In both scenarios, I’ve heard the ATC in real life advise them of the aircraft type, altitude and the position relative to the initial aircraft. In the below example, ATC cleared Southwest 764 for the visual approach Runway 28L. I believe a command like “Southwest 764, 8 miles behind/in trail of a Southwest/company 737, clear visual approach Runway 28L” would bump up the realism. Alternatively or additionally, this command could be added for tower to say “Southwest 764, 8 miles behind/in trail of a Southwest/company 737, runway 28L cleared to land”. Effectively combining sequence and clearance. Furthermore, I think linking this to drag and vector on radar would be superb. When ATC uses drag and vector to place an aircraft in a hold at a fix, the distance in nautical miles and the time taken to get there in the aircraft’s current configuration are displayed. Similarly to holding, my idea would be to place the drag and vector over a nearby aircraft which would then activate a drop down list of actions to perform. This action could be called “advise”. This would automatically say the aircraft type, distance in relation to said aircraft, indicated altitude above MSL and direction of travel. The simulator already has an identical system which tells location when aircrafts call inbound to tower or request a service on approach.
Here is real world scenario that’s more relatable to my above representation at 6 minutes and 36 seconds in and here is another real world example of the VFR aspect of this scenario 2 minutes and 6 seconds in
- The images used as examples were attained from a tower training session, a test on a private server and an approach session by yours truly, respectively. special thanks to @guxk and @CarlosFunes for helping me at 1AM with example 2
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You could argue this feature isn’t needed and I will agree with you. It will enhance the realism, however. Thanks for reading this feature request! Stay safe!