# Too many violations

Hello,

I was doing a flight from EHAM to TNCM in the 747-400, and everything seemed to go as normal, until the descent. I was just passing 10000ft with an IAS of 260 knots, a little to fast. I saw the warning in the top of my screen (saying that my speed should be lower than 250 knots below 10000ft.) and I immediately stopped descending and started climbing again. (Since everything happened so fast, i forgot to lower my speed). I got a violation and, lowered my speed to a IAS of 230 knots, and started my descend into TNCM once again. Once I had landed, I looked at my stats, and saw that I had 4 violations instead of 1. I know that you can get multiple violations for the same thing, but somehow I got 4 violation in less than 15 seconds, because thatâ€™s about the time it took me to get the plane above 10000ft.
My question is, how could i get 4 violations in less than 15 seconds?

Kind regards, Noah

Hey there!

You sure that you didnâ€™t break any rules throughout the flight?

You say you forgot to lower your speed, how long did it take to get below 250 knots? If it was a short time I do agree it is a little strange as the most you could get in a small amount of time is 2.

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It takes way more than 15 seconds to get 4 violations.
Iâ€™d say you flew at a higher speed at too low altitude for longer than you think. That is the most likely cause.

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Well, it took me about 15 seconds, if not less, to get above 10000ft, but I canâ€™t remember what my speed was, since it all happened so fast. And Iâ€™m pretty sure I didnâ€™t get any other violations. But thereâ€™s nothing that can be done about these violations, so ima life on.

Yeh you shoulda only got 2 violations, you sure nothing else happened during the flight? Or you flew overspeed for too long

Yeah, Iâ€™m 100% sure nothing else happened along the way. Iâ€™m just as suprised as you are.

There always seems to be this confusion between â€śI lowered my speed to X KIASâ€ť when what really matters is â€śmy actual speed was x KIASâ€ť.

It is entirely possible to set your speed to 230 but have it climb above 250 again by descending, especially if steeply in a 747.

When you say you were going 230, what you mean is your AP was set to 230. That isnâ€™t the same thing.

[Youâ€™ll swear up and down that no it was actually 230 you watched it the whole time there was no way, etc, so donâ€™t worry, Iâ€™ll just assume thatâ€™s your response. But you donâ€™t have any video or photographic evidence of phantom violations, making this only the 1,482,436th time the system has assigned them with 0 photos or videos produced of it as of yet.]

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