The story of KLM 075: Stalling problem

On Sunday July 26, 2015, KLM 075 was enroute from EHAM-EDDL and expected to fly at FL320. It took off on runway 09 and it was a short and crazy takeoff, which investigators think that might’ve started the problem. It went back to normal and climb to FL320 but, couldn’t. I noticed that the ERJ-190 wasn’t climbing up too high so I made VS higher, but didn’t help the speed, so I trimmed it but it didn’t help either. Then the stall warning went off and I stalled. I then decided to make a emergency landing at the nearest airport which was EBSL. I try to decend with autopilot but it wasn’t helping the case, so I went and decend with the plane in my controls. While decending, I retract the landing at about above 10,000ft or about 8,000ft. At the same time the plane almost went upside down. Then we attempted our final at that airport, and we almost crashed into dozens of homes, so we put it into full throttle for a second and I realized that we not lined up with the runway, so I turned at the last second and then, BAM! We landed safely. All the 64 passengers escaped the plane with no injuries. After that it appeared on the news shortly. Hundreds of photos was taken, but this was the most popular one

The passengers boarded on a alternative plane and headed EDDL safely.

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Glad to hear the passengers got to their destination!

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Wow, they really picked a dramatic image! I hope you were playing some epic, dramatic music in the cockpit at the time! :smile:

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If you could somehow record your screen I can see an amazing video being made of this- maybe there could even be a series!

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At what time was this?

If a Mayday feature was added, it would probably be abused, the same with a pan,pan,pan, and I guess that’s mainly for passenger emergencies which don’t really occur in IF. But perhaps a ‘Divert’ feature would be better. So if approach is guiding you on the ILS, you could suddenly say; 'Unable, Divert to ’ and the controller would guide you there instead. Perhaps the aircraft could be labelled as urgent on the inbound, but then again this could be abused to avoid holding, and would create difficulty for controllers- you may have a full pattern with no room for insert, and then one plane needs to jump in- you’d hVe to get pretty much everyone to 360!!

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Instead of saying "emergency. You can choose any number from 1 to 25 percent chances of an engine failer or another scenario. And the only time “mayday” would show up is when theres actually emergency and the game would know.

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NTSB report:
On Sunday July 26, 2015, KLM075, operated by an Embraer E-190/100STD which had its last D check on Wednesday April 29, 2015, suffered an aerodynamic stall during an unusual steep climb to FL320 (9.763,6 m).
The flight took off from runway 09 at Amsterdam Schiphol, Netherlands with destination Düsseldorf, Germany.
For unknown reasons, Captain Jonathan Hinson, a former IF pilot, was intended to climb to FL320 instead of the common FL210 for this route, which forced him to climb steeply. The vertical speed exceeded its limit of 2.200 ft/min above 15.000 ft.
The pilot flying tried also to regain control of his aircraft using the trim. But this let the plane pitch up even more.
Speed decreased continuously and finally the light loaded aircraft stalled.
Captain Hinson was able to recover the aircraft.
After he felt safe, he engaged the A/P and descended approaching the nearest airport, EBSL, Belgium, for an emergency landing.
While descending, between 10.000 ft and 8.000 ft, the plane suffered severe up and down pitching, probably caused by the mix of speed and trim setting.
On short final to EBLS, Hinson was flying to low and he was not aligned with the runway, but he finally landed safely.
No injuries were reported.
Conclusion:
Severe pilot errors after obtaining a wrong clearance from ATC to climb to FL320.
The poor experience of Captain Jonathan Hinson on this aircraft model probably caused the unusual climb exceeding the limit of the aircraft’s design. He was also not able to correct the trim setting for the descent.
And finally he decides to continue an highly unsafe approach on short final without going around.

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So glad the plane landed safely despite the problems encountered :smile:

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Eh, I’m still working on it. It was just trying to get to my decided so I wouldn’t have to start the decent once I get to my altitude. Btw nice story.

Were you on ATC air watching this? You seem to hav a lot of fine details- nice report by the way!

Nope, all based on the informations given by @Jonathan_Hinson and my own deductions as a experienced IF pilot :)

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@SkyHawk@Blackbird71 This baby died at birth!!! “Emergency Procedures”. Have been beat to death on this forum. No matter how you cast it out to the fish who always bite. Mayday/PanPanPan are unworkable and disruptive on IF at the present time. I recommend You review prior post first before you post.
Mad Max Sends

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3 months later, we still read his post

Lol so true

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Totally…I’ve seen some serious wipe outs. I wish they would make it so that you actually crash and lose points if you touch another plane. 🤔

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Necroposting. Feel free to make another topic:)