So some of you might have seen the recent news, an Airbus A320 engine caught fire at ORD a couple days ago. This is a pretty “common” thing to happen I guess, but the thing I find interesting is how they didn’t mention the type of the plane. I feel like every time there’s an emergency on a Boeing plane, the news has to mention that detail. Do you think the news is trying to make a bad rep for Boeing? I’d like to know your thoughts.
Forgot to put this topic in Real World Aviation before I posted it. If someone could change it I’d appreciate that.
Given that Boeing had more serious accidents recently than Airbus they’re bound to get more press attention. Especially with all the whistleblower stuff.
I flagged it as off-topic to see if a moderator might come along to move it. I don’t know which TL is required to move to a different category
While I don’t think it’s necessarily great, news outlets will post titles that will get people to click. Boeing has made a lot of serious mistakes, some of which aren’t fully discovered yet, and of course people will be more curious about that. Adding to that Airbus is less known as a name for non-aviators, especially in America, so specifying Airbus probably doesn’t help them too much.
I just think Boeing is deserving (and more) what they are getting and need to keep improving, in fact I knew one person on the Ethiopian Airlines flight, and the way they handled that matter was beyond disgraceful. That’s how these things will die down.
True. But take for example the tire falling off the 777 at SFO. All the news outlets stated multiple times it was a Boeing 777. If that happened on say an A330, I can almost assure the news wouldn’t mention that.
Also, sometimes the news covers Boeing incidents that weren’t Boeing’s fault, rather a problem at maintenance.
I can agree the news nowadays is a bit one sided in terms of naming aircraft’s which have been in incidents. Had it been a Boeing it’ll be headline news almost everywhere. Some news agencies have said it was an Airbus when they were reporting it so I guess not all of them are like this. I remember a few months ago there was a problem with a normal B737 (not a MAX) and the news kept on repeating it was a Boeing made plane therefore making the reputation of Boeing even worse. The thing was is that it wasn’t an entirely new plane as well so it was bound to have faults as it ages. Had it been an Airbus the news wouldn’t have kept repeating it. I think they keep repeating Boeing so they can have a more views on their news reports of it.
It’s all just fearmongering. That’s how news outlets get all the views.
This boeing situation got that bad that everytime on tiktok for example the turbulence that happened on the Qatar flight or Singapore flight, I swear all of the comments are like: “of course it’s a boeing”, “it’s always boeing” etc. Even though the incident happened because of the weather not the aircraft manufacturer.
I won’t lie it’s starting to annoy me to be fair.
I can’t lie the sun could explode or the earth could stop spinning and if an boeing plane crashes or an incident happens because of these said reasons, they will always find a way to blame boeing.
Another thing with this situations people are scared of this manufacturer (ok to be fair) and some even believe that Airbus is invincible in a way, (for example a comment I seen recently on tiktok: “this is why airbus is better” on the tiktok of the turbulence)
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Yeah also I do understand boeing’s like ‘quantity of quality’ type manufacturing in a way as I do feel like they could at least double check in a way which I will understand why some people are scared.
Also I kind of do in a way I feel nowadays when I check the news when it’s something about aviation and about boeing I usually find it to be a bit negative even for the past few weeks or months, I don’t remember seeing a good article about boeing. The only one I remember is that Ethiopian Airlines ordered the 777x
Ever since the first MAX incidents and grounding using the 737max in the article title generates more clicks which makes more money
heck even with this a320 engine fire media cycle I could’ve sworn I saw a 737max thumbnail for one of them
Yeah as I said before whenever it’s a minor plane incident which involves a Boeing, news reports always repeat the word Boeing so they can have their big break or something like that for money.
Except that was 100% pilot error.
Ah the tiktoc crowd. Not a brain cell among them.
Yeah? Boeing has been found guilty and admitted to it. Don’t know how you arrived at your conclusion. This was pushed by Boeing in the beginning, but as time proved that was just them trying to protect their stock price.
Another thing I’d like to say that isn’t really related to anything anyone else said is; remember when those two Boeing planes had a small collision while taxiing at ORD? The news had to say it was two boeing planes but I would bet if it was two airbus planes that collided it wouldn’t have been on the news. Plus it was pilot error anyways but no news outlets mentioned that.
Not at all that is what the Airbus fangirls want you to think. Both were pilot error no matter how you look at it. If the autopilot is buggering off do you continue to use it? Ah no you don’t. There is a serious lack of hand flying skills in commercial Aviation. We rely too much on tech and not pilot skill. Pilot training and standards are not that great in many areas. That is just my take on the situation.
The autopilot shouldn’t have had those faults to begin with. Sure the pilots are partially responsible, but the fact the accident happened twice because of the same problem, it came down to Boeing being responsible for those accidents. To this day, Boeing still hasn’t recovered from their failures and they continue to cut corners. With the world watching them now, they can’t get away with these schemes anymore.
Very true on the last point. Boeing main issue is the bean counters are running the show not engineers. Regardless pilot training at those two airlines is known to be lacking. That is just from 25 years in the industry dealing with some of the crew all over.
Besides your wording implying you already made up your mind, I can only recommend you actually inform yourself about what happened from sources such as Netflix, the FAA or other sources you deem trustworthy as this view is borderline ignorant. Boeing never told anyone about the system (MCAS) that caused the crash to enable seamless cross-type ratings. That’s also why no one knew how to turn the system off as nobody knew of its existence. In the Ethiopian case the pilot even managed to turn it off but too late, as Boeing only planned for a max 10 seconds to react. Given the lack of knowledge about the existence this was widely regarded as completely irresponsible also by the IFALPA. This combined with the engineering error of only using one sensor for MCAS meant that a simple error of that one sensor could send the MAX nosediving into the ground.
Please please inform yourself about stuff like that, I don’t know how you can be so shortsighted more than 5 years after the incidents.
Here’s a more entertaining and well summarised source also including the interview of one whistleblower who has now passed during their trial revealing the truth behind the safety culture of Boeing:
Also worth noting: the Lion Air crew did their training in the US