The… expert server?

I admit on my profile that I have 153 violations and yes from level 1.
I have been here since 2014 and at the very beginning everything was difficult, different graphics and so on, I couldn’t get my head around it at first and there were hardly any instructions or reports on how it all worked.
In 2015 I hardly flew.
And in 2016 I joined an IF-GER group and they helped me improve my flying skills, but that still wasn’t enough for me.
In 2020 I signed up for IFC and lo and behold, there are more and more videos showing how to operate everything. And now there are hardly any violations.

And yes, I know it’s annoying that most people don’t follow the rules and only do what suits them, like make room, I’m the new guy and have priority to land, or turn on the strobe lights from the gate and do that the whole way to the taxiway to the runway and blah blah 🤦🏽‍♂️
Apparently they’re not hobby pilots/aviators. They just want to fly.
In my opinion, my advice would be to drive to the airport yourself and see the whole thing for yourself, how to do pushback, how the taxi rolls to the runway and when the lights are turned on.

The only thing is that new people don’t even want to read, some of it is also displayed as a tip when loading the game.
It was specifically written to turn on the strobes light in front of the runway before you get permission to start.

But bro, what’s the point? No, we can only discuss it endlessly.

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Completely agree, it’s rediculous

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I was being tailgated once, when I slowed he went through me and then he slowed and went through me again to get back behind me lol

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The thing is, no matter what the requirements are set at, they are grindable by simply spending time on the simulator. Numerical statistics do not accurately represent the skill level or maturity of the user.

The issue at hand here, unfortunately, is the maturity of the user, which is impossible for IF to “fix”. If you look at the flight sim market in its current state, IF has a lot of competition across the board in both the mobile and desktop enviornment(s).(no im not comparing the two platforms, im simply stating a fact that the target audience of aviation enthusiasts is the same) I would assume that, due to IF’s accessibility, younger aviation enthusiasts to be more attracted to IF than its desktop counterparts(expense being the main decision factor).

Unfortunately, as I stated before, there is no way for IF to fix the maturity of a user. Even if IF implements a knowledge test, they will still continue to exert the same behaviors until they have the maturity to understand how their actions affect other people’s experience on the simulator. The same concept applies for more restrictions/harsher punishments. We have to answer the question: for what purpose was the violation system created? I would argue strongly that the purpose was to educate the user, not to be the maturity police. For the knowledge test that was mentioned, anyone is capable of guessing and checking over and over again until they eventually pass. Yes a restriction can be set on the amount of attempts, but that wont prevent the behavior.

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worst thing that happened to me was someone who clearly didn’t understand heading-altitude rules and ended up flying through me over the atlantic

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I dont want to sound like im against making the expert server more realistic. I am 100% all for it. But im being blunt about the situation, and the unfortunate reality of the circumstances at hand. Its a hard hand to deal with for sure.

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i agree it wont fix everything. I still believe though in making the entry barrier somewhat higher, it can contribute to deter some. Sure people can grind it out, put in the time - get around the test etc - but if it takes considerable effort, chances are that the majority of users that do put up with it do it becasue they want to experience a realistic environment.
But yea - i guess it somehow always be an issue - after all it is and will always be a game.

I personally opt for less frequent routes and destinations now. i.e. try to avoid EGLL lol.
That way I can enjoy myself trying to get things done in a realistic way.

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hence the “more often than not”
definitely users out there (like yourself) - that racked up violations in the early days and gotten better.
Just observing that there tends to be a correlation between certain behaviour on expert server and violation history

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I’ve seen countless Grade 5’s (who have put their nose to the grindstone for days, weeks, months… etc) who have a complete disregard for other users’ experience on expert server. At the end of the day, its maturity, and that comes with time and life experience.

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There are people with hundreds of violations, and whom have improved over time, and then there are people with none. I personally only have 12 (or somewhere in that ballpark) level 1 violations. Im pretty happy with that considering I started when i was 15. It all varies from person to person, and their mindset.

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Hmmm more like a common sense test like for example with questions like “when do you line up ?” With mcq or written answers and so that you automatically fail if you exit it when your giving the test . And maybe like a few re attempts AFTER you get a certain amount extra hours of flying or A few tf’s and landings to get another attempt

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We need a new server. Or just revert back to the old training server requiring grade 2. The level of flying sometimes on display is shocking. Absolutely nothing wrong with it, we all started somewhere, but thats exactly the point of a training server.

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The training server definitely needs improvement too, many seem to use it like a casual server and too many people completely ignoring the ATC which makes it impossible to try and develop your ATC skills

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The training server is to train for better flight. It’s okay to make mistakes on the training server because that’s what it’s for. The expert server is intended to be a professional setting. Some things that happen on the expert server (ex. the screenshot I posted) definitely belong on the training server or even the casual server such as F22s at LAX. It’s completely unacceptable as some of you have said.

Every flight on the expert server should be intended to be professional, whether it’s GA, Military, or Commerical, you should act as realistic as possible. Mistakes happen, but I haven’t had one time in a while where I can have a full realistic flight with other people actually being realistic. I always see someone end up doing something crazy. Anything from people using messed up flight plans to being escorted by a freakin A380 happens on the expert server. It’s incredibly disappointing.

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Me with 80hrs trying to do my best in the expert server while fighting anxiety 🥲🥲

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Done → Pilot Score System

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Oh my god !!! my phobia 😱

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If you have anxiety about the expert server there’s always the training server where mistakes are accepted 👍. Sometimes I use it to practice stuff online!

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Straight facts. I crash into a mountain during a night approach to Hong Kong because I failed to see it. It’s expert too

Ok but that has nothing to do with what he had to say. It wouldn’t be the ATC’s fault either. You are ultimately responsible for avoiding terrain and there’s resources to help you such as charts/approach procedures.

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