I took off last night on a long haul KSFO-EGLL in a 787-9 on the expert server. It appears though, that the TFR from the ATC yesterday is still active?
You should read the NOTAMâs before flying
If youâre talking about the EGLC TFR, thatâs permanent and wonât be removed anytime soon. Itâs kind of like the EGKK one, except it restricts aircraft size and not runway usage.
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well as long as it only restricts size not runaway, I guess me and the 50 or so people headed to EGLL will be safe
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Iâm sure youâll be fine. Unless your destination is EGLC, you have no reason to worry. :)
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You can get information about the TFRâs, including the period of their activity, by clicking anywhere within the red circle. For example, at EGLC:
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thx, knowing that makes me feel better
It is also great having these TFRs as it makes it more realistic
Because youâre into EGLL and it wasnât featured, zero worries.
noot noot noot
how is that not a complete sentence?
Multiple exact words
Happy nooting.
MaxSez: What? 318 & smaller accept; âExcludes All Boeing & Buses!â. Clarity is the key to professional communications. MaxSends
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Hey there @Maxmustang,
I agree with you on the clarity being a key component. Yesterday I intended to fly from Jersey to London City in a crj700, however I was denied request to land for my aircraft being too big. I was confused as I thought a crj700 was smaller than an A318, and ended up diverting to Gatwick. I decided to message @TaipeiGuru who was handling approach during that time, and he was very helpful and sent a screenshot of a NOTAM Misha sent to other controllers.
As you can see, the NOTAM you posted does not display the same information that expert server controllers had. Iâm sure I was not the only one who was initially surprised/confused why I was being denied entry.
Not sure whether the NOTAM was not updated, orâŚ
Anyways, thatâs just my experience, and hopefully others will see this screenshot of Mishaâs message to the controllers. Might clear up some confusion.
-Moosehead
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Last time I checked, a CRJ is smaller than an A318âŚ
Well if you search CRJ-1000 I will be not sure
After Moosehead contacted me, I did some quick Googling to test a theory. Turns out, from what I found in 10 minutes, there are no CRJs that fly to LCY.
Obviously, please do correct me if Iâm wrong, but this could just be the ârealisticâ part of the NOTAM (although a more definitive clarification in the description might have been better).
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I mean youâre not wrong, a crj700 for example is smaller than an a318, however like TaipeiGuru mentioned: irl no airline operates a flight to LCY with a crj700 aircraft.
I guess my issue was that what the NOTAM says in the app to pilots, compared to the NOTAM that ATC had does not relay the same information. The NOTAM pilots can see (such as the one in Maxâs post above) is rather vague and worded quite poorly.
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MaxSez: Just because no registered airline flys to a destination is of no consequence. Consider; airline test flights, Charters, VIP ect.
Logic my friends is the key, âThere is no such thing as Truthâ. Remember powered flight was deemed impossible by your forbearers!
Pls engage your âreasoningâ node before Bloviating. Lol.
Gâday All, MaxSends
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Hi all!
As a local to EGLC, you are correct, CRJâs arent operated into London City, however the main reason this aircraft was put in game was not only becuase it was a previous aircraft in the BA fleet, but a replacement of the Dornier 328, which is operated to and from smaller destinations. They operate both prop and jet versions here in the past, and still operate the jet to this day, not sure about the prop I havent seen one there yet.
The airline is Sun Air, which uses British Airwaysâ trademark.
Jet and Prop varients at EGLC
Noel Philips recently made a video from Manchester to somewhere where they convert them from private to commercial. Iâd suggest watching it!
@TaipeiGuru this is the correction
I mean youâre closer to EGKK but close enough I guess.