So you’re going to leave a three year old in economy while the rest of you go to first class?
Simple question, would you like to fly in first?
There is something you need to learn, kids are literally everything for their parents and THEY want the best for their children!
The “best” isn’t to get on ground and be like: “How was your flight in eco, mine was awesome”.
The best is that at the end of the day, everyone had a great experience.
For real, who would say no to that https://goo.gl/images/6dC9Vb
Hey guys, lets try to keep this more on whether airlines should be allowed to bar kids from F and not on our individual parenting skills, because let’s face it, a good deal of us such as me cannot parent an egg for one day 😂😂😂😂😂 and we would never reach a conclusion.
I think if Airbus can put bunks in the cargo hold, they should have a playground too lol. Doesn’t airline have a flying casino? Sorry, off topic.
But really 1st class is a very expensive luxury for all, I’d say yes if their old enough to be and understand how to behave in that environment. I have 2 autistic children , flying a long trip in any manner would be a challenge but not impossible. Parents need to know what works best and how to keep them entertained
Also, there is no airline that does not allow ‘children’ to fly premium.
infact, Malaysian Airlines is the only airline to have a similar rule, which is that no children (0-12) may fly on the upper decks of their A380’s, and that is only for their Upper Deck economy. Upper Business class and First class restricts infants from the classes, which means that no children from age 0-3 may fly business class. As I’m sure everyone who has ever flied has experienced, no one likes the screaming toddler 2 seats behind on a flight, no-matter the duration.
Hahaha, Emirates does have a bar, along with Etihad and Qatar. Also, Emirates is building the APR 001 plane which will have a swimming pool and casino and such. I agree with you.
True dat, but there is a lot of controversy surrounding is and more airlines would do it if the crowns against barring kids was smaller and the crowd supporting is was bigger.
Also, most people who travel in premium classes who have young children at a stage mainly restrict flying luxurious classes, as there is no point in paying a hell of a lot of money for a newborn to fly First Class. And I’m sure that, while there is no rule, airlines somehow discourage infants flying premium classes.
Don’t newborns require a bassinet, or am I wrong? Because if they do require a bassinet, which I don’t think they require one, why are they in F.
Also, maybe let’s focus this one kids that you actually see in F. I’m sure that you are toddlers in F more often than babies in F. Please correct me if I’m wrong, anyone that has actually flown J or F.
Okay guys, lets just set some age definitions here.
Infant/baby: Age 0-3
Toddler: Age 3-5
Children: Age 5-12
Adults (Teen): Age 12-18
Adults: Age 18+
Infant baby: I’m actually not sure. I guess if the parent wants to, why not. The airline shouldn’t bar them
Toddler, kid: as long as they’re well behaved, sure
Teen: LET US IN!!!
Adults: of course not (jk)
According to the FAA if I’m not mistaken, a child under the age of 12 is not legally allowed to fly alone if not a UM (unaccompanied minor), therefore a child under 12 can’t cause any problems if flying alone anyway (because this scenario doesn’t exist).
I think kids should be allowed in premium cabins. Most premium cabins aren’t age restricted so kids should be allowed in there as much as adults are. The only way for kids not being able to be in there could because of the following:
- Airline has a restriction
- The family just doesn’t have the money to get it
- The family doesn’t want their kids in premium cabins
- The family is under and employee worker and is using the employee’s flying benefit
With the last one it depends on what rules the airline has for it’s employees and their benefits. All I know is that under SkyWest children under 8 aren’t allowed to be in premium cabins.
Lol no what I’m saying if someone wants to go in first class then they should contain there child or the whole family flys in economy
My opinion is that kids must be allowed in premium cabins. There is absolutely no reason as for me to ban them from entering. For grown ups: it is what it is, if you get really annoyed of children then order a private plane or travel by car.
(I don’t mean to brag here so don’t take it the wrong way)
As my dad works for qantas we get upgraded often. In my experience, when I was younger I was very responsible in business class. I don’t know about other people, but I don’t see the problem with kids being upgraded. As long as they are well behaved, then be my guest
Yes and no.
Firstly, you have to see what a premium cabin is. When I pay more money for a premium cabin, is it to get out of the literally back breaking economy seats that some airlines have?* Or is it to get away from the people in economy? That said, who are the people in economy that you are trying to get away from?
Personally, I’d allow kids in premium cabins, with one caveat. As long as you have the money, little Timmy can have all the J seat he likes. It’s your money that you’re spending, and as an airline more money is always better than no money at all. However, when Timmy starts throwing a tantrum at FL380 and ends up disturbing others, he will be out of that cabin faster than you can call for a plastic cup of water. If I decide to pay a months worth of pay just for peace and quiet and a nicer seat, I don’t want children sitting a row down somehow being louder than two Trent 1000s. When buying the ticket for someone under the age of 12, you are informed that in the case of other passengers complaining and an employee can confirm that you are indeed disturbing others, your child will be relocated to another seat, or even downgraded to Y if it gets worse.
Another way this can be solved is to have a certain section of the cabin dedicated to being child-free. This is much more inconvenient than just banning children however, as it means taking up space in an already small section of the plane. Scoot has something like this on their planes, where there’s an area between J and Y where the Y seats there get slightly more legroom and are child-free for the 6 or so rows. I sat there, and I can confirm that it is quite comfortable only being able to hear muffled screaming from the area behind instead of right next to you. (Ironically I would be still considered a child in some places…) The extra legroom and no children is indeed something I would pay extra for, but no more than 10-20% without a proper seat upgrade.
In conclusion, yes I do support you being able to do whatever you want with your money, only if it doesn’t bother others.
*This was a couple years ago, when I was on an SIA A333. For some reason, my family ended up right at the last row where the seats started coming closer to each other and the aisle started constricting. The first thing I noticed when I sat down was that the seat felt really upright and hard. The carbon bucket seats in the 991 GT3 are much more comfortable. I had a choice then. Complain and maybe get a seat change, or stay put and try and sleep? I chose the latter. Years later, I regret that decision. Top tip: when your comfort over several hours is at stake, make no compromises.
Also, I’m back from my extended forum break, right during exam season!
I say yes, as long as they behave themselves. A kid is a kid so sittting with the mouth shut for x amount of hours just won’t happen. This does not mean screaming like mad is ok either. Another thing We have to remember is that Some kids might very Well be traveling in premium because they can’t take all the noise, Some are very sensitive to sounds, same goes for adults. Everyone does not travel in premium because they can, but because they have to.
Great topic, its an intresting one!
I think that kids that are rude and disrespectful should no be allowed on a plane at all. It disrespects the other passengers and is really annoying.