Today i was flying from LFBO - EGLL(TRAINING SERVER) during night my call sign was EXPRESS INDIA 278KF HEAVY. It was about 2 hrs flight. When i reached for final approach there was a united flight going ahead of me towards runway 27L we had enough space between us. I got clearance for landing at 27L. Since it was night i could only see the runway ahead of me. To make sure the UNITED that went ahead cleared the runway i reported my position FINAL on 27L to make sure its good to go. Reply was ROGER and i confirmed but when i reached about less than 1 nm i could see a one big boy A380 on the runway without strobe or landing lights laying like a crocodile to catch its prey. There was no time to take a missed Approach or go Arround i just took my boeing777-300er a bit up and landed somewhat safely away from that big boy. I checked A380 PROFILE he just got from grade 1 have have some history of violations he was a newbie, itâs okay but ATC could keep a eye on runways always.
And i shouldnât have trusted ATC that much
What u guys think ?
It took me a little bit to accept this myself. Once I realized how unprofessional people can be on the Training Server, I started to grind my butt off for Grade 3.
Youâre asking a bit much from Training Server to be honest. Training Server ATC is like the name suggests: for training purposes. If you want ATC you can trust, turn Grade 3 and have IFATC help you out there as theyâre trained to be competent air traffic controllers đ.
You shouldnât expect a good flying experience in training server, especially at popular airports like EGLL. Most people there fly anyways they want. If you want more realistic experiences, go do landings and level up then fly in expert server.
feel your pain! I have re-joined IF online after a break of a few years (loving all the improvements whilst I have been away BTW!) and have to get my 90 day currency up on landings and flight time in order to get back onto the expert server. On the Casual and Training Server there are some intresting tactics by my fellow fliersâŚrespecting others airspace is not one of them!
There are some great controllers on the training server. Some donât have time or commitment to go through IFATC training but still provide a great service. However, pilots often donât follow instructions simply because they can get away with it which ruins the overall service provided.
That doesnât mean we can blindly trust controllers, even on the Expert Server, trust but verify. Controllers can make mistakes and good pilots are always ready to act accordingly. Reject takeoff if someoneâs crossing, or go around if runway isnât clear etc.
To get high realism (and with that safetyđ¤Ł) I would always recommend to fly in the Expert Server. Apart from the point, that you have some unsafe people there too, you definitely get more accurate and safe replies to your position announcement, as well as air traffic coordination.
But sometimes, you get pilots in aeroplanes ahead of you, which arent the fastest so you will get trouble there too.
So the point is, that YOU are pilot, you make decisions. And if this situation doesnât seem to be safe for you, abort the approach and make a go around - unnecessary what ATC think of it, you have to bring the airplane safely on the ground.
It could also have been because the A380 simply refused to follow instructions which, as a training controller myself, is the one situation I wish I had enough time to become IFATC
Hear this question time and time again. Youâre the PIC. Do what you must to ensure safety and follow flight rules. If something is off, assume ATC doesnât see it, and be proactive.
I could have rejected the landing if i could see that big boy ,but since it was dark and that aircraft didnât had any strobe or landing lights there wasnât no way i could have seen him .
