Question about descent approval

If there is no center do I automatically descend without permission via VNAV?


Yes. There’s no one to ask for permission from.


Just one thing to add here: if you contact approach, you also do not need to ask to descend via a STAR, just go ahead and ask for an approach service right away. A reply with “continue as filed” allows you to follow your STAR (both laterally and longitudinally). I’ve seen a lot of people asking to descend via their STAR on the Approach frequency which is not necessary because odds are you are already descending via the STAR when contacting Approach at 18,000 feet AAL.


What Maxim said is incredibly noteworthy. It’s incredibly frustrating as Approach at a busy airspace to have to constantly ask people for their App. Request after they’ve repeatedly asked for Descent VIA.


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