Recently I noticed that the options in the pilots/ATC communication menu needs some improvements.
1.- The pilot should be able of suggesting headings to ATC this especially for weather, terrain or traffic.
2.- Its necessary to add “clear as published” (not the same as clear as filed) this in order to help ATC dealing with SID/STARS that are all ready published in JEPPESEN.
3.- The pilot should be able of asking to divert (it’s necessary to add in FLP an alternative airport) this to prevente low fuel emergencies or traffic delays.
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If you want to see something change, put it in #features. Then people can vote for it and hopefully you can get it in game.
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I know but I can’t 😞
Thanks anyway
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Amen! Totally agree.
You have been here for awhile, just like posts and stay active for a little bit and you’ll be able to make your own.
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Is this not redundant? If you file a SID a/o STAR, then get cleared as filed, you’re still cleared as published for that instrument procedure.
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As others have said, voting for features is best here. But also
This just isn’t realistic at all. Pilots will never suggest vectors in the real world. In Infinite Flight, saying unable to a vector that will take you into a mountain is more than enough to cover the rare occasions something like that happens.
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As most have said here, I would recommend for the future to put this in #features.
As far as I am aware, this is not a thing in real life. When you think about it, vectors should be decided by trained IFATC, not just a pilot on Expert Server, no matter how confident you are. With Radar, pilots trust the controllers to issue valid vectors, and are very rarely times where pilots would need to suggest them.
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I noticed that some pilots don’t include STARS they only include de RWY arrival procedure, yes in some cases they might be the same but only when the FPL it’s well done.
Maybe it’s necessary to enforce to include both procedures during events.
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In most cases not having a STAR is fine. But when they are recommended by ATC, you should put them in your flightplan. If you don’t, ATC will tell you to use recommended STARS/SIDS.
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I understand your point, the problem is that in some cases IFATC isn’t familiarize with airports and during busy operations the terrain is a risky factor.
ATC needs to understand MVA (minimum vectoring altitude).
Of Course this isn’t a priority but in a future if they want to improve the menu I would like to take these points in consideration.
I appreciate you comments
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All IFATC members are expected to familiarize themselves with the airport they want to control before opening.
I’m pretty sure radar controllers know that. They can use external sources to help them with vectoring aircraft around high elevation terrain. Have you ever flown into Geneva when radar was present? Well, I have. It was extremely tidy and ATC did not vector anyone into a mountain.
IMO you severely underestimate the capabilities of IFATC.
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yesss indeed
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I respectfully disagree with all 3.
1, pilot requests a service and receives vectors, not the other way around. If they need to change course to avoid terrain or traffic, they can do so and deal with ATC later.
2, cleared as filed is the proper term used with SIDs and STARs, published procedures usually used with missed approaches etc which not many users aware of or have access to.
3, pilots may request an approach service to their alternate airport without having a designated menu command, they just add the airport to their FPL and it will come up automatically on the menu.
That’s just my opinion, and any of those might get added to the menu. ATC commands get reviewed and updated regularly, and there’s always room for improvement👍
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Totally agree Rob. The only exception is for vectoring around weather, when pilots will sometimes have a better view of what’s going on so request a vector but otherwise ATC’ers should supposedly be vectoring correctly. A little difficult though on IF as the maps don’t show minimum sector altitudes or the like. That said, I would have thought it’s good practice for ATC’ers to familiarise themselves with terrain too.
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All radar controllers do always familiarize themselves with terrain and vectors before opening. They calculate all their needed vectors and all Altitudes. They are expected to make a plan before opening. So it’s very rare for a controller to vector incorrectly or take you straight into mountains.
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