I was controlling PHOG earlier and I noticed many people spawning on the right side ( when looking at RWY 02 direction ) taxi to RWY 02 and request take off. I clear them for take off and they back taxi. Please don’t do this!
When you get to the runway, stay on ground frequency and request permission to cross the runway! Back taxi is used when there is no taxiway to the end of the runway.
Also you shouldn’t spawn on the right side as this is for general aviation
When they are on the tower frequency you can always tell them to cross the runway then tell them to contact ground. Aircraft should not be back taxiing when cleared for takeoff tho.
Controllers are not in a position to overrule a decision made by the PIC. If a pilot says they need full length, that means that they either did not make the calculations needed for an intersection takeoff, or they actually can’t perform that intersection takeoff. It would set a dangerous precedent if controllers start thinking that they know better than the pilots about their own aircraft.
@Danman You need to read what @Panther is saying. The better way to go about needing the rest of the runway would be ‘request’ runway crossing. Not request take off and back taxi. Panther never indicated he “overruled the PIC”. He cleared him for take off as it is the choice of the PIC, like you said. :)
Well,you have to keep them in the ground frequency or if they are on tower,give him "cross runway " command,if they enter without permission ghost him, we controller can’t decide if they need backtaxi or not.
Lol why are you so set against this? When there is space for airliners to spawn, they should spawn there. If not by all means use the GA spots, but in this case there is both
You always assume they are going to back taxi the controller doesn’t decide if the runway is long enough or not, the PIC does. @azeeuwnl don’t ever ghost for this you aren’t the PIC. Until we can ask the pilot if they can accept an intersecting departure, expect the back taxi. IMO you’re just pointing out the mistake you made as the controller.
In PHOG, unless it is a GA aircraft, I never clear for takeoff on that intersection - if they request takeoff I give cross runway. Never had an issue.
However, places like TAPA you will quickly learn that it’s pilot’s discretion like @Brandon_Sandstrom points out - always assume back taxi. I learned that the hard way.