Permanent Flight Restriction Surrounding KNUC

I don’t think a blanket ban is our answer. While a discussion should be had about the future of KNUC, a knee-jerk measure restricting flights in this manner is not the answer IMHO. The issue is that KNUC is isolated from the rest of the airfields and is a natural magnet for pilots wanting to plan a flight away from the mayhem that is the cluster of airports on the pacific coast. KNUC also has the advantage/downfall of being a great location for pattern work, a nice flat island surrounded by nothing but sea. You can see why pilots will want to fly there, I don’t blame them.

What can we do? A nice isolated airport surrounded by flat land to do patterns at would be a great place to start. I think VCV might be a viable alternative to divert traffic to. Plenty of space to do patterns and some decently flat land around it.

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@C_Baccari ^

Yes please! The only thing I have to say is how will you fly omi air charters there.

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Personnaly,
If you go on Playground, this is not the real planes what we have to see in KNUC.

So:
I think all people are free to fly/spawn everywhere he want, without limit, this is a flightsim where you have to feel free to fly everywhere you want, just dont forget some rules and basics.

I love approaching KNUC with A320 etc (i’d never use A380 B747 etc…)

I don’t know about this.
Sure it’s a sim and not a game. I’m very passionate about that difference.
But…what’s next? You have to have a PPL to fly IF?
I’m exaggerating of course.

Keep in mind that there are no structures, buildings or other elements showing it is a military base. It’s just a strip with taxiways. And it’s a great location.
And in emergencies a civilian/commercial aircraft would still be able to land there in real life.

I am all for realism, but this is a hard one.
Maybe only for FNF or other events?

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Lets just leave it as it is. We can´t force people to not use it.

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That is the most important thing that needs to be looked at.
When you want to make things more realistic, you will eventually need more rules.
How to implement and enforce those rules, without causing people to leave or create issues, is the biggest challenge.
Making it less attractive for certain groups will cost FDS money.
I know they love all of this but in the end it IS a business.

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The only thing is, people screaming for realism on one hand, and then being perfectly comfortable with a big message telling you power is cut as you are out of a region. Pretty sure that doesn’t happen IRL.

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That is totally unrelated @N8TCH, since what you’re mentioning has to do with limitations (at the moment) of the program itself and probably the infrastructure as well, and not with rules and circumstances that apply in real life.

But I don’t see the point of having one set of rules for realism and then ignoring the rest?

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The throttle cutting is something that´s being worked on. Basically, they cut it to avoid people going out of the region, and the devs are working in bigger regions/global flight, so that would solve the problems.

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@N8TCH: It’s about making what is available in the app as real as possible.
Not about things that aren’t available (yet). Global Flight is not available at this point. So the power being cut when you go outside a region is totally unrelated and off topic.

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Ok fair enough, but there are numerous items/details that aren’t real so why single out KNUC. There is nothing to designate it as a military facility in the game, how would people know? If you want to really get bent out of shape about something why does my Airbus not say 1+F?

Nor call me a Retard when I want to land.

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i agree with people who have said this should only be on adv servers cause honestly its great flying my commercial planes to KNUC its a main destination too i regularly fly KPSP-KNUC which is very fun and its a pretty long trip, also KNUC has its challenges (winds) its always great landing at in 25kt winds etc, due to lack of military aircraft i really dont see a point because theres usually 5/90 people flying military jets

SO, sorry im gonna have to say no to restrictions on this one

happy flying:)

ahaha that last comment

It’s a struggle when there are so few long trips possible on IF, and the approach into KNUC is delightful.

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When you’ve read my post above, you’d know that I agree with you in terms of it just being an airport without military elements.
The other things you mentioned are off topic.
But feel free to create feature requests for the things you think need to be changed or added.
I do think a lot, if not everything, has already been requested. :)

So are u supporting my comment or:)?

Yes haha, I think that as it is, unless FDS put in restricted airspace around Military Installations there’s no point because as has been stated its just a grey strip like every other airfield in IF.

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