NOTAM at KLGA

The NOTAM at LaGuardia Airport claims that “Aircraft Larger than 757/A321 must divert”

But in reality 767’s are known to be able to operate from the airport with multiple airlines including Air Canada, American Airlines, and Delta operaring the type from LGA in the past.

The NOTAM should allow 767’s to fit into LGA.

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Well KLGA doesn’t have any heavies right now and the NOTAMS are based on the present and not the past.

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That’s true, yes, but a 767 hasn’t been operated into KLGA for quite some time, and the ingame 767 is rather outdated anyways

if an airline (private or otherwise) wanted to start 767 flights to LGA again, they could, is my point

there is no need to restrict the airport to 757s and below when 767s have been and still can be flown into the airport

the point of the NOTAM should prevent ONLY things that can’t happen, not based on what airlines like to schedule.

an example, I can fly an A380 into Newark even though no airlines do.

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The expert server isn’t real life. It is also meant for the upmost realism. If one private 767 came to LGA every few months, I guess that’s realistic. On infinite flight, it is highly unlikely that only one person every few months will fly a 767 into LaGuardia. If the notam is lifted, I can see multiple coming each day.

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Very valid point. There are many aspects of IF that can be changed, but if they are, they could have a negative effect, even though the intentions were good.

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I totally understand what you’re saying; Air Canada used to operate 767’s all the time during the busy season to Toronto, but Air Canada has since retired the 767. Also, Delta drastically decreased the amount of 757’s that they sent to LaGuardia once the 321 came out. United used to send 753’s to Denver, but they stopped years ago.

However, for the sake of realism, the NOTAM needs to be there.

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If y’all are complaining about that realism so much - we might as well remove Kai Tak, don’t you think?

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especially adding the fact they offer the use of 747-200 and DC-10 with many airlines that haven’t flown it in 30+ years

the argument for keeping old planes is allowing people to fly the routes of yesteryear with the models of yesteryear… I should be able to fly an Air Canada 767 to LGA

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Pretty much the same classification as the 757, if you were in an old livery, I don’t see you getting in trouble honestly. It is a bigger aircraft than the md11 and dc10 classification wise so I think it would be a bit risky doing it with a controller on, since you never know how much knowledge they have on the local airport.

I’m wondering what will happen if you fly there in a B767 in the simulator, will you get an automated violation?

Thats my wonder too after reading this lol

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Nope, reported only by atc. Accidentally tested this when on approach for JFK, bouncing below 10,000 on accident

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Flying into the TFR circle (EGLC and others included) should NOT earn you a violation from ATC. If you have… I would suggest a chat with appeals imo.

I personally wouldn’t report anyone busting those TFRs unless it was abundantly obvious they were about to land i.e. less than 1000ft agl, at a typical Approach IAS and aligned with a runway… Or conversely, I’ve just seen them depart.

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Correct; your only aloud to report if they’re flying into our out of that airport… which I wasn’t

The reason no airlines fly 380s to Newark is because they literally can’t. The taxiways aren’t set up/wide enough for 380s and there isn’t a single gate at the airport that can fit a 380. So no, it’s not just because airlines choose not to.

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Only by ATC. Also if IFATC supervisors see it even with no ATC present, they’ll report you too.

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Even better point, the game should have a TFR over EWR for that then, no?

An a380 can land on EWRs runways, and LaGuardia it can’t. Too short. Also they really only add TFRS for major things. If the expert server was truly realistic your map in be filled with red circles, all you’d see is red. People are unable to follow real world procedures unfortunately, so adding even more restrictions would make tons of people mad, since if you where gonna add one for EWR, you might as well add for everywhere else

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At this rate, someone should be in charge of monitoring the president’s location and setting up a TFR in that area. And while we’re at it, have some F-16s ready to scramble and intercept. I cannot believe this conversation is still ongoing. The TFR is in place here for a reason, just like at KASE and CYTZ. Sure, bigger aircraft can theoretically land there, but allowing it would open the floodgates for everyone and their mother to land their A380 at Courchevel Altiport.