I’ve been doing a lot of ATC on the training server lately, especially at LAX, and at some points I found myself very frustrated with some pilots who don’t respect the need for realism in flight simulators. People are just lining up and taking off even without permission, even when I said hold short because there’s traffic on short final. I’m just wondering if there is something we can do about this, because at my current state (650 operations and counting) I can’t do anything to those who disregard the ATC and the need for realism to make a fun in game experience. Any ideas?
if it is training server there is not much to do
but you can also choose to be part of the expert atc group
I am afraid there is nothing you can do on Training Server. Pilots there learn how to communicate with ATC and they are not keen on how to follow their instructions. If you really like controlling, I would suggest to join IFATC for a better and more professional environment :)
Check the following link:
Best of luck!!
Basically there’s nothing you can do at the moment about those guys. But you can invite the always-friendly community for some ATC if you open up a tracking thread like this one:
I feel you. Everytime… :(
I always want to report them, or something, but there is nothing we can do.
Since they are “training” we can only hope there behavior will improve before reaching the expert server
Almost the same thing happened to me. I was controlling EGLL Approach and about 4 aircafts were coming in to 27L… So I told 3 of them to each make a left / right 360 and each and every one of them ignored me then changed frequency. When I sent them an on guard warning they ignored it.
I’ve been spawning at various airports and taking a listen and just looking around. Ghosted a few that decided to play chicken with the plane taking off without permission.
One thing I noticed is that most will follow the command. Keep in mind that the controller is learning too and if they issue the wrong command the pilot may look like they are disobeying. Not saying this is the case for all, because its not, but it is something to keep in mind.
Of course. Thanks for your thoughts everyone:)
And that is what i want to see more. Offcourse it is training, and everybody can make a mistake. But racing to the runway and take off like a hurricane or just flying over a runway with m2.0 is not “training”.
Join the group below. It’s a great group. Trio is my trainer.
Well, it is training server. And if you do not listen, you will not get in trouble by being ghosted. I will be honest with you all, even I have ignored TS ATC instrustions. Yes, a grade 4 not listening to ATC. Why? Well I am not going around when I’m on a 2 mile final of 24R at KLAX with no traffic in front of me. Yes, I do listen, if you are realistic and know what you are doing.
Training server isn’t realistic… If you would like to fly or control in expert server which is very realistic you need to have the requirements for it. (pilot: grade 3) (atc:Infinite Flight ATC Recruiting)
I found traffic controlling at training server annoying… people requesting descent to 1,000 when they’re not even on final… Then when you tell them to maintain 8,000 they say “unable” even though they can, and can’t be bothered. I was working as approach for about 2hrs or so… and I had around 4 people say “Unable” and 2 people perform an unauthorised landing, an AirBerlin aircraft takeoff the taxiway at about 100000000vs
And someone allergic to the runway?
they’re on the grass
It really annoys me that people don’t respect air traffic control… At least give us the option of “Please listen to ATC instructions” and verbal warnings
You can say “please check forums for atc instructions”. But my advice to you, since you aren’t an ifc certified controller who Can ghost people, ask people on IFC to do a private airport controlling, with some pattern work.
Happened again. I was EGLL for around 3 hours, I told someone to land at 27L and they land at 27R… I told 2 people to exit the runway at the same time because I’d cleared one… so three took off… Other than the occasional oblivious person it was a good experience.
you should expect for only some of the people you talk to to listen
thats at least my experience
I wish they replaced casual server with the current training server, and added an actual “Training” server for those who want to be serious, but aren’t quite ready for expert. There would be consequences for those who are just straight trollers, but if you made a simple mistake for instance you forgot to announce taxi, you would just receive a warning unlike in expert where you would probably get ghosted.
Haha controlling EGLL is painful for all 4 sectors, here’s some possible probs you’ll meet with from my experience:
Ground: Pilot asks for 27L, but you give him 27R due to overcrowding issues. Pilot STILL requests for 27L repeatedly. Wtf!
Tower: Impatient pilots not knowing/not acknowledging that another aircraft is on short final. Repeatedly requests for takeoff clearance. ATC instructs to hold short, pilot can’t wait and takes off without clearance.
Approach: Aircraft not tuned into frequency despite being 50nm+ away from airport. You send on guard and he ignores, you see his info and found out he’s on tower.
Departure: Similar to APP. Pilot doesn’t tune into frequency.
Yeah. I was tower last night and as soon as I cleared someone for takeoff, whist they’re still on the runway they request takeoff, almost as if they can’t see 100m ahead of them