Nose up on landing

The best you can do for those aircraft is make sure your approach is spot on (speed, height through final) and go into reverse as soon as possible when touching down, holding the nose up. So when your mains touch down pull back all the way with your device.

Another way is touching the power up a bit at 10ft AGL. But don’t do it too much or float too long. This is more unrealistic to real life. Try all this in solo :)

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Setting the trim just right is a big help.

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defintley the MD-11 is perfect for learning on how to do this and to keep improving.

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I also have this problem particularly with the A320. You might improve your nose control once touching the runway with your main gear if you try to land very smoothly.

I fly the A320 a lot in game it’s very tough compared to the 787, I reckon though the 737 is even harder.

I just aim for touchdown zone I land around -90 to -250 FPM most times

Additionally, use trim. That will help you a lot.


I have found in the Airbus A320 family it helps to arm the spoilers after touchdown, i’m aware it is unrealistic but it works. Once you touch down apply reverse thrust gently and then arm the spoilers.

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With a direct headwind you’ll find this a lot easier. If you get it right the extra drag means you dont need brakes or thrust reverse. You can slowly adjust the pitch with the elevator and bring it down nice and slow like in real life.

Holding the flare is tricky, I also found that once main gear came down, nose gear would quickly follow. But practice makes perfect, so just keep trying to hold the nose when you land and you’ll get it.

If you look at the horizontal stabilisers of an airliner on a real world landing, you’ll notice that the pilot will also try and hold the nose by pulling back.

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Thanks all for your suggestions. I’ll try them this evening.

The cause of the nose going is slow speed. You just have to tilt it up a bit while descending slowly. But, yes I do have the same experience.

This technique you are seeing is called aerodynamic braking. I learn it here at Embry-Riddle. The purpose is to reduce brake usage as much as possible before you no longer have the lift to keep the nose up. It just helps to preserve your carbon brakes. It is tricky to replicate in IF, because of the massive, possibly unrealistic, drag caused by your spoilers deploying.

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my smoothest nose up landings are achieved with the 787-8. Make sure the aircraft is under MLW, around 140 knots (depending on weight) and set the trim to around a positive 55 degrees. After that around 10 to 20 feet before touchdown, reduce thrust to idle, and slowly raise the nose up. Works with most aircraft too, although they each have their own speeds/trim setting.

Aerodynamic braking is used a lot in military jets for the purpose of slowing down without using the brakes. Easy to do in a light weight single seat fighter.

In an airliner it is most definitely NOT recommended. Large swept wing jets don’t take kindly to aerodynamic braking and those sitting in the front won’t appreciate you being unable to arrest the rotation rate when the taileron runs out of aerodynamic authority!

The issue with airliners is that you have heavy weight, high speed equaling high inertia and energy. You don’t want to go off the end so you’ll be using reverse thrust and spoilers to dump lift. These two combined will give you a fast nose down rotation around the main gear. Slow the rotation and ‘fly’ the nose wheel onto the runway but don’t try and hold it off, it will end in tears or a broken nose wheel.

Again, fine in fighters and small aircraft (until you dink the prop) but not to be used in big, swept wing jets. The videos you mention are probably just flying the nose wheel on and taking a bit of time. (look for videos of F15 Eagles doing aerodynamic braking and you’ll see the difference)

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I’ve been flying this sims for years and can rarely fly the nose down just right. It would be a lot more satisfying if the devs could get this figured out through improved physics or whatever.

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It’s the activation of landing spoilers when main gear touches down that causes the nose to “smack” the runway most of the time. It “glues” the plane down so to speak and causes your speed to drop drastically. Maybe FDS could make it so the landing spoilers don’t deploy until all gear is on the ground. This would cause you to use more runway to stop but will give you plenty of time to gently set the nose down.

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Hi, thanks for your explanation. Although on every single airliner video I saw I’m sure nose stayed up a lot longer as I manage to achieve in IF.

Yes,but that depends on the surrounding air in real flight

Hey, to ensure the nose up while landing put throttle on idle just before you touch down (at 20 or 30 ft) and have a landing speed of 140-155 knots on a small aircraft and for medium and large have a speed of 160 ish knots and with full flaps with spoilers armed. A wee trick is not to put reverse thrust on until you want to touch down as this reduces speed fast and will bring the front wheel(s) down faster and when you want to come down touch the nose wheel down and after 1 second apply brakes and set reverse thrust,

Matthew

I usually reduce my power to idle just before the threshold of the runway!