Nose up on landing

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Hello,

When I look at real airliners landing videos on YouTube I notice that pilots keep nose up for a real long time after touch down.
Now I tried to do that in IF but it’s really complicated (nose tend to quickly go down, too).
I also tried increasing thrust but this is not always a good idea since you risk touching down too far.
Do you have the same experience?

Thanks.

Daniele

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Could you please provide a video if you can replicate it but I suggest maybe turn your device sensitivity down.

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737 and A320 are not good for this, the best aircraft to replicate this is the MD-11. I have been able to travel at 60knots with a nose up atitude.

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Hi Daniele,

Some aircraft in IF are quite hard to do this with. Two good examples mentioned above by Andrew.

Is there a specific aircraft you are flying? or are you talking about multiple aircraft?

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For instance on a320 or b737 is really difficult. On bigger airplanes is more feasible. Ok, if you have some experience it’s fair enough for me. Thanks

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Common on the A320 series, try the midsize boeing jets and you wont have a problem

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@SilverSurfer is talking about the B757/B767 in case you were wondering what mid-size meant @daniele_milizia

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Well for a 737 nose up landing that best way I have found is not activating spoilers till the nose is down. However if you touch down too hard without spoilers, you will bounce

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The best you can do for those aircraft is make sure your approach is spot on (speed, height through final) and go into reverse as soon as possible when touching down, holding the nose up. So when your mains touch down pull back all the way with your device.

Another way is touching the power up a bit at 10ft AGL. But don’t do it too much or float too long. This is more unrealistic to real life. Try all this in solo :)

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Setting the trim just right is a big help.

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defintley the MD-11 is perfect for learning on how to do this and to keep improving.

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I also have this problem particularly with the A320. You might improve your nose control once touching the runway with your main gear if you try to land very smoothly.

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I fly the A320 a lot in game it’s very tough compared to the 787, I reckon though the 737 is even harder.

I just aim for touchdown zone I land around -90 to -250 FPM most times

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Additionally, use trim. That will help you a lot.

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I have found in the Airbus A320 family it helps to arm the spoilers after touchdown, i’m aware it is unrealistic but it works. Once you touch down apply reverse thrust gently and then arm the spoilers.

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With a direct headwind you’ll find this a lot easier. If you get it right the extra drag means you dont need brakes or thrust reverse. You can slowly adjust the pitch with the elevator and bring it down nice and slow like in real life.

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Holding the flare is tricky, I also found that once main gear came down, nose gear would quickly follow. But practice makes perfect, so just keep trying to hold the nose when you land and you’ll get it.

If you look at the horizontal stabilisers of an airliner on a real world landing, you’ll notice that the pilot will also try and hold the nose by pulling back.

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Thanks all for your suggestions. I’ll try them this evening.

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The cause of the nose going is slow speed. You just have to tilt it up a bit while descending slowly. But, yes I do have the same experience.

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This technique you are seeing is called aerodynamic braking. I learn it here at Embry-Riddle. The purpose is to reduce brake usage as much as possible before you no longer have the lift to keep the nose up. It just helps to preserve your carbon brakes. It is tricky to replicate in IF, because of the massive, possibly unrealistic, drag caused by your spoilers deploying.

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