You could try this Norwegian route as your next flight as a tester :)
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Oh, and for those who don’t know, Bradley is Hartford’s airport.
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MaxSez: 737 Trans Oceanic, no big deal, check out the USAAF ferrying Gander-Preswick route from the 40’s they did it in C-47’s. PanAm ruled the sky’s befor most of you where a gleam in your daddies eye! Hell Lindbergh flew NY-Paris in a Ryan in the 30’'s…Just Saying!
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Guessing you’re not a fan of AC823 which crosses the pond every day with an A319…
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My father grew up in Nassau County under the ILS for the 22’s at JFK in the 1960’s and 1970’s. The planes would fly about 1,500-1,000 feet over his house all the time, including PanAm. The concorde would fly over 2-3x daily and he said he could hear it coming from miles away.
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http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1337851
I’ll summarise:
- They originally ordered the A320N, but converted those orders into A321LR aircraft instead.
- 30 A321LRs are to come for DY.
- They ordered these last year for delivery in 2019.
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Edinburgh is in the U.K. …
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Well, Norwegian isn’t filling up some of the -800s to the max pax. because there are weight restrictions and they might not reach there destination with a full flight. So I would recommend using simbrief (the ETOPS function comes in handy) and maybe putting the passenger count to like 100.
UA154 is a great example of an oceanic narrowbody route. I might have to give it a try when Global is released.
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I’d take the A318, it’s the obvious choice. It’s in a full business class configuration.
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How are the seat configuration on those Norwegian 737-max? SAS had their 737-BBJ operated by Privat Air with only Bussiness class seats doing atlatic routes (maybe they still do?)
Myself wouldn’t be so happy flying 5+ hour flight in a regular 737 economy seat.
There are 189 seats in a single-class configuration just like the regular -800, obvious difference being the vastly improved fuel economy on the MAX, hence why they can comfortably make 7 hour routes without any scheduled stopovers etc.
The other thing is people are surprised to find DY doing this with 737s, but they’ve been doing long routes with them way before this, but just not across the atlantic, for example Trondheim to Las Palmas (I think) is roughly 6 1/2 hours long - so this isn’t really anything new for them.
As for the SAS BBJ, they’ve introduced a few economy seats on those aircraft recently I believe.
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I just launched from Providence enroute to Cork.
130 pax, 4500lbs of cargo, and max fuel capacity with a good bit of range to spare. I can easily divert as well if needed. This feels a lot like doing BAs JFK to London City hop. Use every bit of runway, ease back power sooner, and crawl your way to cruise.
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Shannon (EINN) will probably be your closest diversion after Keflavik if the headwinds are strong :).
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Yup, my first waypoint once I make land is Shannon, then I’ll turn southbound for a long downwind into Cork. :)
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Good luck, do you use simbrief to calculate fuel or anything else or do you just guess?
A little of both.
First route was a success and plenty of fuel to spare. The jet stream there towards the end had me up in the 570-590kts GS range which made for a quick 5 hour hop. Now I’m ferrying the 737-8 over to Bergen. I’ll do another crossing with this soon!
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Mr. Shelton, when global comes out, will the no 550 kts or higher rule be removed? Because when people hit the jet stream they would likely go faster than that like you did.
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Yes, we will do away with it.
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