Non movement areas

So since it demoted down from advanced cus of XP changes, I was doing pattern work, and I started taxiing on the apron over to the line that starts the non movement area, and the controller started spamming me with request taxi those messages. I hadn’t even got anywhere near the non movement area line. So I just made this to educate the people who don’t know, there are areas on airports that don’t require permission to taxi. But once you get to a taxi way, you must ask

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What area specifically? Which airport was this?

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I have a feeling you mean ramp areas? In IF there are no ramp controllers so even when on the ramp you are under the ground controllers control and must call for pushback and for taxi.

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Yes, but as I said in IF they are not treated as areas where you are not under the control of the ground controller. If you want to taxi in IF you need to call the ground controller to request permission first. This is one area in which IF conforms to how things happens outside the US.

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I guess I should add on too, I was in the 208 so I don’t need a push back. GA aircraft

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Ok, well no need for the personal insults, it hardly advances the discussion.

However, whilst these areas do exist in real life - I haven’t disputed that have I - they are not treated as areas not controlled by they ground controller in IF. In IF all ground areas are under the control of the ground controller and therefore you need to call the ground controller before taxiing in IF. It does matter how they are treated in IF - that’s what the query relates to and what we are discussing.

If you wish to let me know what I have said wrong on this thread that would be useful.

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MaxSez: Just another Un Posted/Advertised IF ATC rule is it @ATK. Bout time someone listed the Local Regs that deviate from the FAR/ ICAO standards for all to see. An IF NOTAM will do.

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NOTAMs would be awesome. Like you spawn in, and the NOTAM would show instead of tap to calibrate device, and when your done reading you’d click done, and it calibrate it.

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Indeed.

There are lots of things which deviate from rules in the real world. One reason is because there is not often the same rules or procedures in all countries so IF just effectively applies the same rules in all regions - a sensible approach.

The other reason things don’t often follow real life is that this is a mobile flight sim and operating within the restrictions of the models and atc process we have, so again some things have to be simplified or changed to take that in to account.

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I don’t pick and choose anything. You are confusing me with those who set the rules. I am advising on how things are currently done in IF. I have acknowledged what happens in the real world - which is what the OP is referring to - and how IF does it.

If you have a suggestion about how something could be changed then post a feature request and I am sure those who do run IF will look at it. However, currently in IF you need to request permission before taxiing.

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MaxSez: @ATK… You’re preaching to the choir good Sir. Your comment is noted and was know and understood when I hit the keys. Bottom line IF deviations from real world procedure should be posted and read by AlCon. @Rodney_Buckland was correct, he’s just a victim of IF Tough Love. One learns here it appears from mistakes utilizing a hammer! Some call the hammer ghosts or violations! That’s a hell of a way to learn! Just sayin.

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Realism by its very nature is subjective when you simulate an activity, such as flight, on a electronic device.
You have to cut corners and improvise to get things done.

With that in mind, I think IF does a decent job.

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While non-movement areas may exist IRL, in IF, all aircraft moving in all areas must have clearance. Simple as that.

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MaxSez: True and correct Nick for IF but it’s a redundant comment! Let’s follow the KISS principle shall we. Regards.

(PS: Phil don’t like “Bold” print)

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