New Option for Progressive Taxi

Features
#1

The new update has included the progressive taxi and it’s great, but I think that a new option shoud be included. It would be an option for the pilots to request taxi instructions. For example if you land at LAX on an A380 and you don’t know where it can be parked, you request taxi instructions to the ATC to guide him/her to the correct gate zone and then the ATC says resume own navigation. Another example would be what happened me today; I landed at Heathrow on a UPS 757, but I don’t know where the Cargo area is, then I would just have asked for taxi instructios and the ATC would be my progressive taxi until the cargo area.

All this doesn’t mean the ATC can’t give you taxi instructions without you asked him/her, but if you need them, you can ask the ATC to give you Taxi Instructions.

This is the idea, and if you liked it, then vote for it!

Taxi - requesting progressive taxi instructions
#2

That’s already possible with the current instructions, this is more of a policy decision. We won’t guide you to your gate, unless you are negatively effecting current operations. It’s only to be used when necessary.

A command on the pilot’s side requesting progressive taxi to the gate/runway would be a different story, that would be a new feature.

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#3

Well, I’m not saying to the exact gate, but to the cargo zone for example

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#4

“American 1003 requesting progressive taxi to Terminal 1”, is an example. I don’t know how that would work, would probably be a pilot ATC sub-menu within the taxi to parking command.

Request taxi to parking > Terminal 1 > Send

You could have the option of different general gate areas, that would be cool.

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#5

I have made an example with gogle maps, but if I am a Cargo Plane, then ATC knows you need to go to cargo area. Look at this:
example

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#6

This would put alot of work on ATC with numerous aircraft asking for taxi instructions to their gate. It would be hectic especially during FNF. Progressive taxi itself requires significantly more attention than normal taxi procedures on a single aircraft.

#7

That would be too work for the IF team because they should set all the terminals for each airport in Infinite Flight just for this option, also adding cargo areas and GA aircraft areas

#8

Yes, I know but it would be only for aircraft that request taxi instructions and not every aircraft would request them.

#9

If it became a feature more pilots would use it not just a single aircraft

#10

It would be a great resource. As well as the pilot’s request for a back-taxi (pardon me if I fled the focus here)
But just one observation: would not it be a lack of pilot planning? Before a flight I look on the global map where the gates are suitable for me to park and memorize a reference point to find them.
But it really would be a great feature you mentioned.

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#12

It has sense, but I was searching the heathrow’s cargo area on google maps to do the photo example I posted above and I didn’t found it.

#13

I mean look at the if map still in the main menu (where you choose the gates).

#14

Instead of adding more and more commands which significantly higher the workload of a controller, my N°1 favorite feature, the Drag And Taxi ground controlling, could solve you problem.
From my personal view the progressive taxi instructions are a step in the right direction but they have limits, especially during busy times. A real taxi map would really much help every ground controller and pilot.

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#15

I see the use of this and is a great idea(I for sure need some guidance in some airports as IFATC changes locations weekly) though correct me if I’m wrong, but the implementation of this ‘progressive taxi’ option is to ease out/minimise congestion, interruption and confusions in the ground traffic when in busy active airports

A quick example here is image
Taken probs around 2 weeks ago in one of IFATC’s schedule, where you can see a number of our fellow pilots that was at this airport queuing up and taxiing…

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#16

It would mean ATC being really familiar with every airport. I’m sure it would be fine if you were a regular at that airport and knew all the gates / zones. I think it’s a bit much to put on the controller, ground can be debilitating enough (if it’s busy) to control without having to think about directing an aircraft to a particular area. Having said that, if it becomes a thing and we have to do it i guess we will have to pull up the ground charts for each airport. It would be nice if taxi lights (haha) guided each aircraft so it could be automated and the controller just kept an eye out for conflicts.

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#17

It could be interesting the idea of taxi lights, but there could be an option for the ATC that when he selects an aircraft it shows on which gates it can go

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#18

Wouldn’t it just be easier to put the gates on the live server maps just like when you’re first choosing a spawn gate? I’ve always wondered why that wasn’t the case. I frequently park the wide bodies at gates that technically aren’t large enough to handle something as large as say an A380, but when taxing to parking there’s no way to tell what gates are what. Letting me see the gates on the airport map after landing would easily solve this problem since it would also point you to the cargo ramps.

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#19

I mean this a good idea - and to prevent the too much pilots requesting it problem, why not add a message in the ATIS saying “Progressive taxi to gate service unavailable due to traffic/at this time.”

#20

I don’t see this happening.

It’s a pilot’s job to know where to park, not the controller’s. We can’t (and won’t) spoon feed you instructions right to your gate.

Progressive taxi is only used in order to avoid potential conflict or congestion, and that’s already a lot of work. Using it for “aesthetic” purposes would kill the ground controller.

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#21

Well I think that is possible already because I have heard atc say “—- Expect progressive taxi”

Then later he says “—- turn on the next taxi way”

Or something like that