After discovering time compression, I wanted to do some vintage routes with the DC-10 and MD-11, but the problem is, I can’t find any route numbers to do said flights. Looking for stuff like “Continental DC-10 routes” gives me the route, but not the flight number.
If anyone has any info, please write it down below.
Thanks!
(Pic of a Swiss Airlines MD-11 to not die forgotten).
When an aircraft is retired from an airline’s fleet, certain slots for a route are removed as well.
I’ll give an example.
Using Swiss, the airline you gave, if we can find a route that has a missing flight number, and that is also a confirmed retro aircraft route, it is likely that was the flight number used.
Swiss currently operates two redeye flights from New York City’s John F. Kennedy airport to Zurich. Those are LX15 and LX17, both on Airbus A330s. With that being said, KJFK-LSZH is a route that used to be operated by the MD-11; and it is known that a few years ago redeyes used to be executed earlier in the day; following that pattern, we come to the conclusion that LX13 must be a route operated, since LX13 is a retired number, not retired due to a third reason.
LX11 is used interchangeably with WK11 (as well as LX8011, however the 8000s are used within the company mostly to facilitate efficiency when the base numbers differ between Swiss and Edelweiss, however, LX11, Vancouver-Zurich, does not).
So that’s probably the most accurate way to identify confirmable flight numbers for retro aircraft, aside from manually scanning FlightAware to see if you can come across a very old track-both are very time consuming and it might be best to use modern flight numbers.
For most of historical flights with the MD11 or the DC10 i like to use this site: oagintro
For international flights you can search in the links tagged as “Worldwide Edition”. Here i even found a route that Malaysia Airlines used to do with their MD11: KUL-JNB-CPT-EZE!
It’s helped me find so many interesting routes to fly. I haven’t updated it since last spring, so unsure if there’s been an update for it. I’m on v1.4.95.