So this isn’t exactly aimed at Infinite Flight but flight sims in general. I was looking for people’s experiences in the differences between regular and military ATC instructions and phraseology etc. And any other advice for ATC in the military.
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Hello and welcome to the community!
I believe @Tyler_Shelton is the perfect match for you, and I’m sure he wouldn’t mind spreading his knowledge on your question!
(I know nothing about military 😅)
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Yes, there are differences and that true with smaller airports too! Because especially in the UK the way we approach things are slightly diffrent. In infinite flight this is typically generalized to keep things easy.
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How would I contact him?
Click on his name and go to message. He is an admin so you can PM him regardless of your TL.
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click 👉 @Tyler_Shelton and top right should be a message tab!
It’s not showing for me. I am on an iPhone at the moment.
Hmm confusing, double check and click on his name, or else search it up on the search bar in the top right hand side of the forum, and on his profile somewhere there should be a blue button saying message. Hope this helped
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Hello! Anything I can help you with here? Perhaps your question may benefit others as well.
I can send you a private message if you’d prefer. Welcome to the Infinite Flight Community!
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Hello. I just wanted to know some differences between military and regular ATC and any military specific ATC instructions/phrases you’ve picked up. As I said before, this is not limited to Infinite Flight but for general Flight/Military Simulation.
I’d be happy to help! Ultimately the regulations that govern the military and civil aspects of ATC are the same. There were some subtle differences and phraseology that may have been specific to military aircraft and the unique tactical approaches they did but I’ve found in my time controlling as a civilian that those phrases carry over and are often used at a civil airport.
The airport I currently work at (KMDT) has a military unit assigned there and my previous gig (KGYR) dealt with tactical overheads and such just as often as when I was in the military.
The only real notable difference I can share is just the traffic and aircraft characteristics. The military traffic moves at a noticeably faster pace which means you need to have a plan and execute much quicker! If you have any other questions don’t hesitate to ask or reach out in private.
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Thanks a lot for the reply!
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@LucaB. MaxSez: There’s no questioning of @Tyler_Shelton expertise in air traffic control, in day to day operations, its unquestionable!
FYI, From a purely symbiotic relationship “Military Tactical Air Control” is a horse of a different color from ATC. It’s more jargon oriented on voice circuits, has a defined command & control structure, a Tactical Air Control Centers (TACC).
Among others. These centers interfaces area of operation wide, there interservice in nature and links world wide strategically to include ground air control parties, CAP’s, Strike’s, AFAC’s etc. Wanna learn more on this subject, Wiki or Google or a good library index are excellent sources. Some military field and operation handbook/manuals on this subject and procedures are available on the Web.
Just Sayin, Max
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From a Navy standpoint usually there’s a hierarchy of Air Traffic Publications. At the top for shore control (Naval Air Stations) there’s the FAA Air Traffic Control Handbook. Inside that pub there’s some things that apply only to the different services such as applies only to USAF, USN, or even USA ( United States Army).
Next you have the Navy wide Air Traffic Control manuals ashore. The 80T-114 which only applies to Navy and Marine controllers. We also have afloat manuals for control aboard aircraft Carriers and LHDs. Carrier Air Traffic Control Center and Amphibious Air Traffic Control Center.
Then there’s facility specific manuals such as the Facility Manual.
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@VVBA6. @LucaB
MaxSez: Good scoop from a Naval prospective. Wanna know more, NATOPS, some are Available at cost on line.
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Thanks again for the replies! Really helpful and will definitely look into the guides.
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Maxx just curious what you know about TACCs. I have orders to TACRON 22 in good ol Norfolk. I haven’t gone to C school yet because of some medical stuff but I have been curious on what TACC does. Feel free to PM.
@VVBA6. MaxSez: Well welcome to the Gator Navy & Little Creek NavSta. Live and worked on that station when I was with FMFLant , a name you’ll get to appreciate, you’ll provide the Marine’s your services from time to time afloat on Anphid Shipping with a “Landing Force”, or at Camp Lejune/Cheery Point with a Det.
Brush up on Helo OP’s & CAS/CAP if and when you go afloat of join a detachment,
You’ll like living in Norfolk it’s a Navy Town. Chesapeake Bay, Ocean Beaches get Mil Clubs & RecCntrs, Southern Charm & Friendly.
Below find the mission statement for 22 FYI.
Check in first time you get your marching orders to deploy… I need a good LOL…
. Regards, “Shipmate”, Max the Shellback…
https://www.public.navy.mil/surflant/tacron22/Pages/Mission.aspx
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As long as the MWR lets me sail a boat I’ll have fun.
I have a first class from there who said he did hurricane helicopter support for Haiti so it sounds like a good experience. I’ve also heard of going with the Marines to build airfields in the desert and shoot guns but I kind of wish I got selected for Carrier control for the experience in ATC but Needs of the Navy triumphs. The good thing about helos is only visual separation is needed in my experience.
Did you ever talk to TACC? Want to get a feel for the type of control they exercise.
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This Was genuinely great information
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