Hi guys,
do the maintain safe distance rules still exist? ive just been on the taxiway at OMDB for around 20+ mins and the whole way the user behind me was right up my tail. Not a single message to tell him to maintain a safe distance. Also i can understand its busy, i wouldn’t expect ATC to spot this if it was a one off but the user was literally up my rear the whole way.
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There’s a traffic jam there and he’s tailgating you. Move fast, stop suddenly as he’ll catch up and let him go through you and hopefully IFATC sees it and he’ll be ghosted.
Just like how you provoke road rage
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He was 1/3 of the way into me more than once, IFATC was oblivious to it all.
his user details are in the screenshot, he should be retrospectively ghosted… but then again it seems to be 1 rule for some and another rule for everybody else. hmm.
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Looks like he’s an ‘‘expert’’:
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@anon91707592: He’ll be ghosted? There’s a good chance you’ll be ghosted instead. Honestly don’t know who would even think of trying this “brake and ghost” idea.
@n587kk: As the airport was busy, ATC probably didn’t see it. Most of the time, they are concerned with inbounds and outbounds (assuming the Tower and Ground controllers were the same).
However, if they were different, the ground controller might have been resolving another conflict at the time. It is probably best to PM whoever was controlling at the time.
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It’s tough for Dubai controllers to see the line at 30L, as the tower is on the other side of the airport, so planes won’t render in line for 30L. I recently took over OMDB ground and am keeping a close eye on my radar, but is tough to tell the separation from a radar.
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i clearly explained i understood it was busy. 20+ min of this however… being busy isn’t really an explanation
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i zoomed in to the radar at the time to see what the ATC might have been seeing. The separation compared to other planes was clearly different and much smaller but im not sure if the IFATC looked or spotted this
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When did this occur? If it occurred when you made the post, the controller was @Jose_gil. Please message get him in the future rather than making a post. Since it was very busy, I’m guessing he was resolving other issues at the time.
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45min ago. Messaging directly in this instance would be of little use as the user can’t be retrospectively ghosted. This post is a reminder for all pilots and IFATC. Plus i was genuinely querying whether or not the safe distance rules still existed
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The instruction does still exist, however in most cases like this you’d see it used, it was probably just the sheer volume of traffic that OMDB brings.
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Please keep in mind although this issue should have been corrected that IFATC right now is trying to handles about 50 or so aircraft right now with little to no breaks. There is not much time for the controller to take the time to zoom at every single aircraft and wait for it to load to see if there is a safe distance maintained. So yes the controller is at “fault” but I feel like your taking this issue to an extreme considering you want him ghosted.
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i want the controller ghosted??
its not the controller that needs to be ghosted (not sure where you got that assumption from either). The pilot however, he should be. He probably thought he could get away with it knowing the controller is busy dealing with a large volume of traffic. So why shouldn’t he be retrospectively ghosted? This if anything would make the jobs of ATC much easier knowing users that can get good enough evidence showing another user being foolish can assist them in filtering out these fools.
and again like ive said many times now i understand it was busy.
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Did you mean by the controller or the pilot? If you meant the pilot I was mistaken but the controller can still get someone to ghost the pilot if needed. You can still message the controller in a PM.
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Something else to bear in mind, often at busy airports not all aircraft models are loaded depending on traffic volume, controller/pilot device capabilities etc
Often only a white box is displayed
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interesting. maybe something similar to the planes turning orange and red when in-flight if they are too close could be implemented on ground.
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from what i was told there wasn’t such a thing as retrospective ghosting but ill give this a try
cheers
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It was a riot, I saw you too, I was the China southern, the poor FDS 737 got ghosted because he cut in front of the guy who cut all 8 of us. Jose was very busy so I didn’t make a fuss about it. But I’ve seen more professionalism in casual than that, I waited 15 minutes just to move forward, as other aircraft were spawning and cutting us all off…the A380 that taxied thru me never got ghosted as well as the other aircraft who cut us off…you were the only one giving space, every plane behind you shouldn’t be on expert server
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Not the easiest thing to do because different aircraft are different sizes, which is why the radar can’t always be used to see how close planes are.
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