Just a few minutes ago I completed a long haul from Dubai to Sydney in Expert Server. During descending I got a warning to “reduce the speed under 260 knots below 10,000 feet”. I usually do it all the time, but today my decent rate was little high so it was taking time to reduce the airspeed, habitually when this happens I raise the spoilers to “flight” position and drop the flaps more, if possible I reduce decent rate, it barely took me 20 seconds to come from 273 knots to 260 knots, but within this time I got the warning and slightly later I got a speed violation.
It’s 40 seconds right now. From warning → violation.
And in all honesty, there are extremely rare occasions where you’re unable to slow down enough from when the warning is given to avoid a violation.
But, sure it happens. We’ve all been there. I have my fair share too, it’s just something we all have to live & learn from :)
If you’re really in a situation where it won’t slow down just disable your autopilot and manually pull up with some force (not too hard or you’ll stall). Unless you’re going 300+ this should instantly reduce your speed to below 260 and possibly climb you over 10,000 feet.
Anyway my recommendation when I get this is to level off, and enter a holding pattern to make up for lost decent time. It’s good for slowing down in case I forgot.
No one has answered my initial question, I’ve received many speeding level 1 violations, and whenever I reviewed the replays it’s always exactly 20 seconds from the moment a speed warning issued to violation issued, not 40 seconds.
Unless there’s a policy change to make it more lenient to pilots to increase to 40 seconds from 20 seconds can you explain the discrepancy here?
Thanks for the clarification, since when?
I wasn’t aware there’s a change of policy regarding violations in terms of timings so I guess the decision was made internally.
At least I know now.
I follow these speed profiles. Once I descend under 20k feet, my speed is always 285IAS. Once under 15k feet, I’m at 270IAS. Under 12k feet, I drop to 260IAS. Finally, under 10k feet I’m at 245IAS, then I slow down as needed.
Risking a violation vs pulling up? Pull up as much as necessary to avoid the violation, would be my choice.
Then next time one can plan ahead a bit better to manage sufficiently low speed, but in the moment, avoid the approaching violation as the 1st priority.
Yup. If I’m going to be multitasking during descent I always keep my volume on and I instinctively disable AP and pull up when I hear the warning beep. Haven’t gotten a violation in years.
