No one is saying not to request liveries or aircraft.
The problem is that the people crying for yet another commercial aircraft refuse to allow others to suggest more GAs.
It’s the intolerance of another opinion in a feature request or whatever that’s at issue. Not the opinion, itself.
[For example, I have been told verbatim, if you don’t want the feature, don’t comment. That’s not how a forum works. The literal definition of the word is an place to openly exchange ideas. Yes, even by people who don’t live and die by yet another Airbus heavy.]
MaxSez: I think I got the thrust of this Topic. I tend to agree with the need fo tone down the rhetoric and understand and comply with the rules… Just two salient facts; 1) Anyone can Flag, when you note an Off Topic comment, Advisorial relationship developing or the old boys gossiping, Flag it! Flagging gets immediate Moderator attention and action. 2). Remember Regular status is a machine generated honorarium. It is not an indication of authority, aviation expertise or maturity. Trust but Verify, the free FAA Pilots Handbooks & Google are your friend. Just Sayin
Mr Chris, this is just people being people. The young and impetuous always like to think they are right. They like to find fault and be seen to have some form of authority. You may probably find that the average forum user is either a teenager or younger. The older forum member (myself I am in my 50’s) are typically not as astute when it comes to the finesse of IOT or any other technology. This being said it does not surprise me that we see a level of immaturity here on the forum since to be honest, the majority of personage using the forum are in all actuality - immature.
Our role is to nurture these would be pilots. It can be challenging as in many cases all they are wanting to be is helpful themselves. They just want to make their mark on the world.
There comes a point in which we need to just respect each other and each other’s opinion. Someone may believe in this and you believe in this, but instead of pointless posts arguing, you could take a step back as a regular and look at there perspective. Opening up that area and seeing “oh yea I can see why he thinks this this and this even though I believe in this” is the place we need to be. Our ideology of a helping is split by a controlling factor. The moderators are doing a great thing by seeing this and responding. The amount of pointless posts and topics by regulars claiming to “help” others was becoming obsurd. A community is about helping, but there comes a point when “helping” is controlling and enforcing strict policies. I’m not saying that we should stop telling people that they can’t post in features because they are aren’t TL2 or flagging posts. I’m saying we should stop starting these pointless conversations and rants that drag on and make you and the community look bad. It’s all about Peace, Love and Positivity. That’s what this community and world is about. :)
And this is what stings the younger members, being called immature. As a salty old dog myself, I’ve been called every name on the book, but know my self worth and know that words can’t never hurt me. Something that only comes with time.
I dont k ow what goes on in our members homes but maybe this is where they get to shine, to be in charge.
agreed we as regulars really need to take a step back and instead of coming up with a snarky remark, we could end an argument politely right there and then or simply provide with an answer.
I just woke up and my sleepy brain took a while to digest this post. But I completely agree with you. This forum needs to be a place where people can engage in mature discussions rather than immature heated arguments. We regulars need to promote this and show newcomers the way of the road. Great post. :)
I couldn’t have said that better myself. There are times I’ve seen regulars post responses they would not have post, have they took a second to read it carefully.
I think that there are many people that tend to listen to reply right away instead of listening to understand and comprehend. A great example of this is test questions in various forms of life that are worded to test whether or not you read and understand the substance of the given question.
Nice topic I would like to add a different perspective
Let me be very clear: I do not believe immaturity is the issue at all. It may look like immaturity is the issue but I think it’s probably the purest form of ignorance I have ever seen in my life (except for when I’m driving). I don’t mean the word ignorant in a demeaning way, I’m talking about the textbook definition of ignorance:" lack of knowledge or information".
For anyone who would argue that ignorance and immaturity is the same thing bear in mind the definition of immaturity is “behavior that is appropriate to someone young”. We have alot of young people here and they are very smart so that wouldn’t be true.
If the regulars and members actually took the time to review the things like the tos, community guidelines, and the information associated with each category (before commenting or posting) the moderators wouldn’t need to do much work and the Community would benefit tremendously.
To anyone out there wanting to be a moderator I say good! Keep going. Discourse and IFC is all about first being an upstanding member and becoming an outstanding leader! Read the TOS, Community Guidelines, Review each category so you devlop a good grasp on what its really about. This (believe it or not) will help you understand how to help someone else affectively.
You have to be found doing the work of moderator before you can become one. (that’s not a license to become a mod of the IFC, but rather get you thinking about the quality of your post, responses, and conduct.)
Look, to me at least this is a useless topic, and should be closed.
We have a lot of young people that are about 10+, so it’s clear that they are going to be immature, and this topic is just rude and mean to them. So, the best thing is to just offer advice and help them along the way.
Well, you must also take into the differences of back grounds of each IFC user. I think that plays the biggest part in all of it. What may be acceptable in one area of the world is not so much in another. All these come crashing together in one place, here. Even in the states, there are things that they may do in the north, west, central, south, east and city by city that other areas done see as norm or acceptable…
The best was to combat this, is be accepting, open minded to ALL discussions and to NEVER push your opinions or thoughts into others.
Disagreements will happen all the time. But it’s how you react that people see, if you want respect, it must be given. Demanding respect and not showing that towards others doesn’t accomplish anything.
Perfect example today is the kid that got an awesome paying job to wash airplanes. What do people do instead? Comment on his age and the pay and compare that to their part of the world. Let’s just congratulate him on his accomplishment and offer kind advice and see him succeed in this world.