When I land I arm my spoilers and try to set my reverse thrust to 100% N1 (not full reverse thrust) and I will have a problem reducing my speed to taxiing speed. Because of this I can’t exit the runway sooner and the next runway exit is like 1000 ft away so most of the time I end up taxiing on the runway for awhile before reaching the runway exit and then turning out. Is it realistic to use 100% reverse thrust if the runway is less than 10000ft long? So I can exit sooner as I know most pilots irl don’t use the full length of the runway for landing.
What’s your landing speed, and what aircraft is this on? Also, are you using breaks?
Basically the way it works with many real-world aircraft is that they typically use either idle reverse and just auto brakes or 60%-90% N1 reverse with auto brakes, depending on the runway size and weather conditions.
However in IF we don’t have auto brakes and we can’t set the brake power when landing, so what I usually do is use 60%-90% N1 reverse and then once I’m below 100kts I activate the brakes. Using 100% reverse thrust and no brakes as shown by Mark in several of the tutorials is actually incorrect and unrealistic. It does depend on the aircraft however.
If you end up having to taxi a little bit up the runway because you were to fast for one exit that’s fine. I actually had to do that today when I was flying irl I landed and floated so had to taxi a while down the runway. You wont get ghosted for missing an exit
For the 787 and other large aircraft if I generally land at 145-150 kts. This problem mostly occurs in airports which have short runways. I don’t use brakes until I’m below 60kts. Other small aircraft like A320 I land at 135-138 kts, also the same problem if the runway is short.
Honeslty, It’s not about the ghosting (IFATC won’t ghost without warning), I’m wondering whether such an action does happen irl as I take realism seriously in IF.
Yea I actually just flew with Delta irl to VHHH on a 777 and when they landed we probaly were at 35 knots taxing down the runway because he missed the runway. So it happens really all the time, I would just do what feels right in the moment if you see a high speed exit but you think your going to fast then slow down and taxi under 35 Ground Speed and get off at the next exit
Well if the runway is long I’m still able to taxi on the runway but what if the runway is like 8000ft or shorter and I’m landing a 787? Do I use full reverse thrust?
Never use more than 100% N1 full reverse thrust, as it damages the engines. On a short runway, just engage the brakes earlier if you need to.
Well yea if you are heavy and landing fast then your going to full 100% N1 reverse thrust and start to brake at around 80knots. It’s all about feeling if you need to go slower then put it to 100% N1 reverse thrust and equip brakes early
Or you can press the brakes on touchdown and if your stopping to quickly tap the brakes or use less reverse thrust like irl.
The runway at my airport is 5,500 feet long. When Jet’s like the Challenger 600 or G650 come in they typically use the entire length with reverse thrust and brakes whereas the Citation Excel or King Air 350 can easily stop in time to turn off of one of the intersection taxiways. Variables like wind and weight onboard will affect landing speed and braking distance. Since IF doesn’t really use incremental auto brakes using full reverse thrust to 60 or so and then brakes is not unrealistic. If the airspace isn’t busy I’ve seen jets barely miss an interesting taxiway and do a 180 on the runway to go back to it rather than taxi all the way to the end.
I’ve divided this into 3 parts, choose which one or all of them to read :)
I’m lined up with the runway, haven’t intercepted the Localizer yet as I’m still a far bit out, okay. But I have visual of the runway ahead of me, and at that point as I’m getting closer, lower and slower, I begin to plan how much reverse trust I am going to use, and when I will apply breaks to quick vacate the runway.
At this point when I have decided when to do what and how much, I can have a clear view of the runway length. I can now see where the exits are, as I’m no on the glideslope.
What now? I choose one of the exists that match with the amount of break power I’m going to use OR alternatively you could at this point, pick out a exit and and how much you are gonna break.
Although the typical reverse thrust power would be for me around 60-80% and I apply break when I feel like from here I have good control of the aircraft.
Either way, one I touch down I adjust the plane with the rudder, keeping the nose in the air, and as I have got a good grip and a steady control of the aircraft, I begin my reverse thrust as I put down the nose.
So for the past year, I have been mainly flying Long Hauls, and by this time most of you guys have either seen me doing one or have heard from me here on IFC.
Long Hauls, then we are talking about 8h+ flights are flown by Heavies all day, all night. Now of course different heavies have different approach speeds which also vary depending on weights and wind, so that has to be included in the pre-landing calculations I do before intercepting the localizer.
I’ve flown many of these heavies, B747, B777, B787, A340, A330 and even the Super Jumbo A380.
Many times when I have flown with the A380 in particular to many of Emirates weird destination they sned he A380 to for odd reasons, Christchurch? Well landing at such airports can be challenge at times. You really have to plan ahead of time, have good control of aircraft and once you touchdown reverse at once.
When the runways are shorter, there’s no time to adjust anything, you do the adjustments while reverse thrusting and at the same time smoothly bring down the nose gear. All at once, it takes training to pull of something like that but I know, that you can do it, it only takes time.
My Final Recommendation?
I’d say, go to Casual or Solo and practice breaking. Yep, I’ve done it many times, in order to replicate how B747’s reverse thrust and breaks so they can quickly and smoothly vacate a runway no matter the length of it.
Try doing this with different weights and winds to maximize you training :)
So as you touchdown, apply reverse thrust, try to get it down below 60kts in accordance to that you’l be a bit away from the exit and will need to apply breaks which you’ll have applied till you’ve left the runway. Then when you’ve vacated, let go of the break and taxi as normal.
I know, it sounds easy but takes time to do it correctly every time, also I usually set my Spoilers to OFF when I let go of the reverse thrust and begin using the breaks.
If you do everything in the order I said, and do some training on what would best, on Solo Mode, than you should very minimal difficulties with breaking.
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