So as someone who is a big fan of planes tail mounted engines (and MD80 family aircraft because who doesn’t love the mad dog) and I also love flying around Hawaii, but after practicing a few times landing the 717, if you’re at 140 knots on final, the plane will be pitched too high so you can’t see the runway, and if you’re at 160
Knots, the plane won’t drop unless at a -30% pitch. The last time I flew the the 717 on an actual flight was between Seattle and Honolulu and my landing in Honolulu was nose heads first (not kidding)
So how do you land the 717 because I want to fly it more between the Hawaiian islands and with Delta
Here is my tip for landing the 717. The plane has a VERY small margin when landing between either being too fast and you begin to climb or being to slow and you drop like a rock. Make sure you work the throttle as the margin I am talking about is only about two knots. Also you are not going to want to cut the throttle at 20 feet like you might in most jets as the plane will simply drop onto the runway.
I can’t give a approach speed as that all will depend on wight but as long as you follow what I said above and find that perfect approach speed you should be able to get some nice landings out of the old bird!
You’ll need to check your weight and balance to ensure that it’s properly configured for landing. Simbrief can help you do this. Once you’ve ensured that I recommend using a real 717 manual that you can find online to tell you what landing speed you need for a certain weight and balance. Also, I would not recommend flying the 717 from Seattle to Honolulu as that is almost 2,700 miles. With a fully loaded 717 I would only reccomend flying around 2,000 miles to account for varying winds and weather patterns at cruise. Cheers!
I usually use around 80% upward trim and 25* flaps around 145-150 knots airspeed. I find using the autothrottle makes the landing harder so manually controlling the airspeed helps. It really doesn’t like to maintain glideslope so using inputs to the autopilot until minimums will help you keep the proper glide.
The 717… yeah it’s tricky.
First, you can take a look at this:
It’s an old post, but probably still applies.
Here are some notes I made for myself a couple of months ago. Keep in mind I haven’t flown it since then. See if it helps and experiment.
Flaps 30: 148-150Kts
Flaps 40: ~143-145 Kts
-3 to -3.5 degree pitch angle(very different than most other aircraft in IF)
Start round-out at 50’ AGL
Cut power 20’ AGL
Flare to pitch 2 degrees
Flaps 30 is on there because I think solo mode spawning on approach uses that setting.
Pitch is KING. Pitch = speed, so your favored pitch angle will adjust for different weights and conditions to some extent. You’ll have to use HUD view to practice And nail the pitch angle. But it’s oddly simple, at about -3 degrees = the same as standard glide slope, just point your nose at the touchdown point!
Speeds probably represent a landing weight with some end-of-flight reserve fuel, nearly full passengers, and their freaking bags, and no Christmas Turkeys :-). So how much does all that weigh?.. :-).