Help. 787 stalls prior to touchdow?

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#1

Hi,

I’m struggling to land the 787-10. With speed set at 145-150, full flaps, the plane just stalls within the last minute before touchdow. I’ve crashed twice @ EHAM today. I’ve never experienced this issue with other aircraft.

Any ideas/tips on what I’m doing wrong?

Cheers

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#2

How high do you pitch

#3

Try to keep a higher speed. You might be stalling due to your weight.

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#4

Guess you’re over the MLW?

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#5

Try a little less than max landing weight, and for me it works 145kts IAS, flaps 30, trim in 30 and when I get the 30 feet call, idle and flare

Hope it helps!

#6

I’ve been landing the 787-10 full flaps between 160-170 with higher weights, no issues at all, extremely smooth and responsive.

#7

Thanks for all the tips guys. I might try some solo flights and see if I can work out what aspect of my approach needs modifying to deal with the 787’s different handling.

#8

That should be your speed for your touchdown, if you approach at this speed, you would already be putting your plane on a flare. Any higher pitch. you will surely stall, which is what I suppose you have been doing.

#9

Good point. It seems with other aircraft I’ve been OK doing the last minute or so of my approach @ 145-150 - all the way to touch down. Seems this is too slow for the 787 as my solo test flights @ 170 have now solved the issue, with the 145-150 just prior to touchdown. Cheers

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#10

I approach with all 787 at 146-150 and TouchDown at 142
Weight 25%

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#11

I don’t seem to have the same problem? Make sure the weight and balance doesn’t show MLW, use full flaps and practice a little more. I think it’s probably just a matter of practice. You’ll get it don’t put too much pressure on yourself. If I can do, anybody can. :)

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#12

This video by Mark might be able to help you even though you got a solution.

#13

Hey @DigiDave,
The -10 is a beast and very tricky. It looks like you have your airspeed way too low. Remember, the -10 is a bigger bird than the -8 and is heavier so you will need to increase the speed. Try this:

  • Set your weight to MLW (Max Landing Weight)
  • Recalibrate just to make sure its calibrated correctly. If youre weight was different and you adjusted the weight and dont recalibrate, you will be in for a fun ride lol.
  • Start of on the approach around 165 - 175 and then very slowly, start reducing your speed. You should target your approach speed around 155-160 touching down around 150 ish. This is with Flaps 30.
  • Make sure that spoilers are armed and not set to flight.
  • Nose pitch should be around 2º-2,5º

Practice this with the autoland first where all you need to do is control the speed. Then, start practicing without the autoland. This will give you a good foundation to work with.

Feel free to PM me with any other questions. I will be posting a video tutorial on the -9 and the -10 in the near future.

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#14

I landed safely with 200knots - 210knots…

#15

Speaking of being overweight, how come whenever I start flying, the plane is always overweight? I must always manually set it.

Also, why is medium weight overweight? That doesn’t quite make sense.

#16

For me the 787 lands like a dream

#17

Its landed smoothly too~ Really like B787-10 ^_^

#18

That doesn’t answer my question.

#19

Well, if you ask me, I would said that its just follow the real world plane… So try set it to light and see whether it can solve your issue or not?

#20

I do, but I have to do it every flight manually and it just gets annoying.