Is it the right thing to do, and do approach controllers like when pilots use flight plans that that follow approach procedures. For example:
That is the BOOKE EIGHT approach:
I got that flight plan from ForeFlight and it was one of the routes provided. That subscription is worth it.
This would help controllers but truth is, pilots barely use these… Anyways approach controllers do have the right to take you off your flightplan.
I realized @Dirk_Sander (PHNL approach controller) would do that so I climbed to at or above 18,000ft.
Yes, it is nice when people file flight plans that follow real world procedures. I do the same when I fly. However, you must follow ATC instructions, and often times, that will be different than your flight plan. I know of several radar controllers that try and implement SIDs and STARs into their patterns, but it will never be perfect.
Good, because I felt like I was the only one.
So first off: you wouldn’t actually put in your approach until approach says what exact STAR you will fly. Also you would know what exact runway you will use as winds or other factors can change so that’s why you don’t put your approach in in real life until assigned one. In IF as @BennyBoy_Alpha said controllers at least the ones I have talked to try to implement SID/STARS but it’s hard.
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Bo
Approach can not assign you a SID or STAR. You should just follow their instructions. Sometimes it’s a real world procedure, some times it’s not.
Yes @_Ben was taking about Real world at the start then IF toward the bottom of the post.
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Bo
You aren’t the only one who does this :).
I try to fly with the approach charts open so when I am assigned a runway, I can plug in the appropriate waypoints into my FP. Most of the time, it doesn’t matter because approach controllers in IF rely quite a bit on vectoring.
(I was also referring to using the established procedures for ILS and RNAV, not only SIDS/STARS)
Also @KyleBoas you ever have any questions about ForeFlight I use it in IF and in real life quite often so if you ever have any questions feel free to ok me!
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Bo
I was over exaggerating, kind of. As I was desecending I thought “why don’t more people do this?”. Also, I will @Reedgreat. :)
I use this all the time. I will always plug in the approach fixes, always. Here’s an example…
KDEN-KORD
KDEN TIGHT HAAHN GASSS SNIPR EMMYS ZIRKL WYNDM VEDTI 4231N/9203W 4231N/9125W 4231N/9049W 4231N/9019W 4231N/8946W 4230N/8924W 4230N/8907W 4225N/8903W 4224N/8853W 4222N/8840W 4221N/8830W 4220N/8823W 4218N/8818W 4211N/8808W 4205N/8801W 4205N/8747W 4205N/8730W KORD
As a controller and pilot, I find it much more useful if you use real world procedures, as it keeps the airspace more organized. I most likely speak for all controllers when I say, please use real world procedures, it keeps everything just a bit cleaner.
What tool do you use to convert the STAR fixes to latitude/longnitude?
I used to do it manually, but now I use fpltoif.com. Way easier to use, and much more efficient than doing it manually.
I used the BOOKE8 approach yesterday too 🙌🏻
Many thanks x1000!!! So much easier.
Anytime! I’m always in the mood to spread realism!
Always follow to keep it real! But if the controller gives out instructions please follow them! They know what they are doing!
I do the same thing. I pick where I want to start and see what real life flights are there and pick one I want to do as long as the matching aircraft and livery are in IF. Then I pull up the real life terminal map and pick an appropriate stand to start from. I make my flight plans in simbrief, copy it into IF, set my weights and fuel as stated in the plan, get the charts out (especially the taxi diagrams) and off I go.
One, I simply prefer to be prepared, and two, it gives controllers a clear picture of what I’m thinking. Obviously, aside from cruise, you’ll usually never fly the plan exactly. Even if I’m going into an uncontrolled airport with zero traffic I’ll usually shortcut the approach if it’s safe to do so and visibility is great.
Always. I use my flight plan as a way to show ATC what I want to do, and how I want to do it. Usually IFATC will give me the runway I wanted, but sometimes they won’t, and I adjust for what I was given. Always listen to ATC over your flight plan. They can see what you can’t.
