CLOSED ATC training at EGLL

[7405896A]

Hello y’all I’m back as I promised sorry for the late time. Hope y’all can come all feedback is appreciated! Thankyou! It’s in ts 1

Edit: thankyou for all your constructive criticism especially @Cpt_Chris and @SingaporeAirlines

[Bare]

Unfortunately, your ATC skils are very poor. Before any training watch two, three, five times tutorials, try to undrestand diference between landing and touch&goes, clearance for leanding and option, traffic direction, sequence…

[Bare]

ATC Tutorial Guide

Tower / Ground Ground control Pushback Tower departure Tower arrivals The art of sequencing Tower advanced Extend upwind Intersecting runway’s Back taxi On guard The perfect test IFATC practical exam IFATC Training Expert server access Apply for IFATC Expert server access Note: IFATC applicants are encouraged to study each tutorial related to Tower / Ground. Radar General Radar manual Approach episode 1 episode 2 episode 3 GPS flight following VFR Radar vectors Holding pattern Mis…

[7405896A]

U req. a t and g I have u cleared for the option. There is no problem with what I did.

[Bare]

No, you cleared me for landing. But you did not sequence me

[Bare]

How to fly a (visual) pattern?

A pattern can be flown in different ways. First of all, you will be cleared to fly a left or right hand pattern. This is straightforward: if you are cleared to make a left hand pattern all your turns will be to the left and if you are cleared to fly a right hand pattern all your turns will be to the right. To inform the tower that you want to remain in the pattern you will communicate when you request take off: "callsign XXX ready for take off runway XX, remaining in the pattern" What does a…

[7405896A]

I did not sequence u because u were number 1, and the only one landing at that runway.

[George]

• When I requested for runway change, you should have issued a pattern entry first before clearing me for the option ;)

• When I reported that I’m going for a full stop, no need to send “Cleared to land” as “Cleared for the option” already clears you to land too
  Option & Landing- The Clearance

• It would be advisable if you instructed me to do left traffic instead of right unless you want me to change to 27R. As it may interrupt the traffic departing from the 27R

• And when I requested for Touch&Go, you should have cleared me for option instead to land next time. Glad you realize it at the end and corrected it ;)

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Like @Bare said earlier, you might want to check tutorials and practice more. I promise, you will be a good controller if you keep practicing. Good Luck! ;)

[Chief305]

Bare,
You’re really not helping him as the feedback you’re giving him isn’t really constructive, give him full on feedback so he can improve rather than just saying “your ATC skills are poor”

[Bare]

I was not No1, Singapore Airlines was No1. BTW, he also get clearance for lending instead for option

[Bare]

Sorry, but then my answer is ALL. I am always ready for help, I always give detail feedback with screenshots, but he realy need to start from first step.

[7405896A]

Ok thank you! One correction to what you said I was using 27r for landing and 27L for departing traffic. Thank you for your criticism

[George]

Actually, I meant when you wanted to clear me for takeoff, it would be advisable if you clear me for left traffic instead of right traffic ;)

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You are welcome, I’m always happy to help ;)

[7405896A]

Yes that would make since! Thankyou again!

[Tim_B]

It would be advisable if you instructed me to do left traffic instead of right unless you want me to change to 27R. As it may interrupt the traffic departing from the 27R

I often switch traffic on upwind. I prefer it to having my traffic crossing in the inbound cone.

You can control traffic departing much more precisely than you can perfectly time the gap on base.

As far as interrupting traffic, the solution is very simple: there isn’t any. As tower, you can hold that departing traffic, making the upwind switch extremely controllable.

Waiting until base, (i.e. left traffic for 27R), you’re hoping it works out that there’s a gap for the pattern traffic to cross the cone for 27L. If you change on upwind, you control whether there is traffic on the adjacent upwind.