Can someone explain why I just stalled?

Hi,

I was flying the A339 at FL380 at M0.82 which is exactly what simbrief suggested. All info was transferred directly from simbrief so there’s no mistake there.

I left home then when I returned saw that I’d crashed. At some point my speed reduced, plane pitched up until I stalled, autopilot disconnected and I crashed.

Unfortunately can’t see wind speeds on replays but on the weather app it doesn’t look bad at all (30-40kts headwind at most)

Before I left I was cruising fine.

Some screenshots of the finals moments if they help.


The A330 family are bit underpowered when it comes to high altitudes,
FL380 is too high for the aircraft usually Ceiling at FL340-FL360

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As said above, it is a bit underpowered. Not the best idea to be gone from your device. In real life, you would step climb to the altitude sim brief gave you.

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No this is the cruise altitude simbrief gave me. And the same altitude the real life flight flew to. Flight was fine to begin with then half way through this happens.

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I understand it’s the altitude sim Brief gave you. Where you climbing to cruise at a constant rate?

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I change VS as I get closer but I was comfortably sitting at cruise (FL380) for 30 minutes before I left home. So at one point something happened and the aircraft couldn’t handle it anymore. Makes no sense to me.

As @Anthony_Gulluscio says Regarding step climb: Below is a guideline for optimal climb performance:

After Passing 10,000 feet:
Climb Speed: 320 kts
Vertical Speed (V/S): 2000 feet per minute (fpm) until 30,000 feet

After Passing 30,000 feet:
Climb Speed: Mach 0.82
Vertical Speed: 1500 fpm

For step climbing, try leveling off initially at 34,000 feet. In Infinite Flight, these recommendations help balance realism and performance. While the simulator is more forgiving than real life, following these practices can make your flight smoother and more immersive.

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This tends to happen because the wind shifts suddenly and you lose airspeed causing an AoA increase, more drag, and eventually you crash. You simply don’t have the excess engine power when you’re flying on the bleeding edge of the performance envelope.

I’d expect Simbrief to be okay for PC sims but in IF a lot of the planes don’t really match up super well.

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That’s not my issue here, VS is irrelevant.

I used simbrief and simbrief gave me the info, put the info into IF and then stalled an hour into the flight.

Flight was going smoothly until stall.

Ah I see, so the infinite flight aircraft aren’t realistic enough to handle the simbrief data?

Would love for them to change that data to match infinite flight some day.

Some of them will work fine but some can be a bit off. To be honest, I didn’t think this was an issue with the A339 but what you’re describing sounds like exactly the situation I was talking about. Out of curiosity what was your flight routing?

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Agreed, that’s why I’m puzzled. Thought the neo would easily be able to handle it.

Melbourne to Denpasar, 5-6 hour flight so I was relatively light too.

Vs is relevant. You loose a lot of energy and you stall out and crash by the time you get to your cruise. Just bc it may have looked fine originally, it wouldn’t be in the long run.

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Brother are you reading what I’m saying at all?

This is after VS. I’m already at altitude when this happens.

After looking through the numbers this makes a bit more sense to me.

This is the fuel curve I have plotted for max efficiency in the IF A339:

I don’t have exact numbers nor do I have access to the A339 anymore but I just Simbriefed it and you would’ve been around 60-65% load on takeoff, meaning that your ideal cruise altitude for efficiency would be most likely FL340. Given this, FL380 is definitely riding the edge for this plane at this weight, so maybe bias 20 flight levels lower than what Simbrief says for now to be safer, I guess it is a bit underpowered.

He said he was stable for 30 minutes. Nothing to do with VS.

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Hi, If I had access to your replay file, I’d look for the point in time where the conditions unambiguously started to deteriorate. Usually that is shown by where your forward speed begins to deteriorate beyond recovery.

Heavy for the altitude is typically the case.

Can you possibly get a screen shot of where your forward speed started to fall while at level altitude, or upload a replay?

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We should review the replay then, to make sure😊

Is this real world data? Coz if that’s so the real flight I copied also went to FL380 straight away.

That plus simbrief is why I assumed it would be fine.

I have started a new flight with a lower altitude but as soon as that’s done I’ll upload a replay.

Thanks.

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It isn’t, this is pulled from testing the IF plane itself back when I had a sub. It’s not based on any flight; it’s just the fuel burn at different weights and different flight levels.

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