However… you can study and bring that F up, correct? Boeing can fix itself. Having an F isn’t the end.
(You can also drop a class or downgrade the level of difficulty, ie. Boeing cancelling the MAX entirely, but just ignore me).
Boeing got lazy. They knew they could play the FFA and get away with a plane that wasent safe. Boeing has built great planes and I love flying on them but to most of the general public when you think Boeing you think 737 MAX and that’s what I was trying to express. @Eddie_D @Niccckk you both had very good points and I agree
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The air force has enough money to spend millions on training flights so price doesn’t matters there
Boeing did their new training for the new model on ipads, was very different
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Doesn’t come down to price. Comes down to the military requiring a design that prevented a single faulty sensor from producing a system to malfunction
You’re correct, the F won’t change. What does change though is your knowledge of what went wrong as well as graduation to the next grade. As you’ve corrected and learned from your mistake time has passed, allowing other students/ teachers to look over the past as you are now the top of your class (without being candid when lives were lost).
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You could say that after the first crash, but after the second? Yes. They are a disgraced company.
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Manslaughter. Not murder.
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Yup, good correction.
At the end of the day, we are going to have aircraft crashing, people losing their lives. Name one major aircraft manufacturer that has a clean history? Exactly. But as these accidents happen, it should be the norm for manufacturers to provide a solution and fix to the issue so that it is preventable, no matter the cost. Also, it isn’t murder, it isn’t manslaughter. Its denial. That’s how the world unfortunately functions in todays society. We only see money.
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Yes, but they should learn from those mistakes. That’s the problem; they’re not doing so! They keep on trying to believe the lie they’re living in. “The B737 MAX 8 is safe”.
This entire crisis is certainly an interesting thing.
Firstly, I am a large Boeing fan, so there is some bias.
The MCAS system is an interesting one. It’s pretty clear that there was a massive flaw in it, and I have no regret or remorse admitting it. Luckily though, Boeing is working on it, and won’t continue flying the MAX until it’s completely ready. That much I believe fully.
It’s another issue regarding the safety of Boeing as a whole. I have no doubts that they are still one of the safest aircraft manufactures. In fact, if you look at the crash to flight ratio, Boeing is winning by a long shot. They have a similar fatal crash ratio, however.
See this:
Airbus: 35 crashes to 28.3 million flights. That puts their ratio at 0.81 million flights per crash.
Boeing: 251 crashes to 461 million flight. That puts this ratio at 1.84 million flights per crash (2 times better)
This is why it’s interesting. Yes, Boeing has more crashes, but more flight! Obviously, that’s how it works! Especially considering early flight and the ways in which it was a lot more dangerous.
It’s important to take into account the total facts. Even though they claim some crazy things about Boeing aircraft, there still haven’t been
We also have to understand the fact that Airbus is not a perfect manufacturer. They have issues as well. In fact, there have been weight and balance issues with the A32N and A321N.
Not saying Boeing is perfect, but I think it’s important to understand that Boeing isn’t “ohh my gaawwdd its a Boeing I’m gonna dieeee”.
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That is what I said?
True, but keep in mind that Airbus is much newer.
Sure, crashes happen. But it’s about how they deal with the crash of the 2 B737MAX8s, very irresponsible of them!
The fact that Airbus is newer literally proves my entire point.
Airbus has a lot less flights, and yet a worse crash ratio. Additionally, it shows that despite modern aviation safety they have still managed to fall behind Boeing in terms of safety ratio.
And… I’m not sure how they’re being irresponsible in their response to the crashes. Care to explain?
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Don’t you see how the CEO of Boeing is constantly trying to reassure pilots and passengers that the MAX8 is safe?
They’re living in a lie.
Mind providing a link? I’d love to see this.
I see that you’re a Boeing fan. If you won’t take my word for it, it’s been on the news a couple of times but I can’t find it back. Here’s the only one I could find when looking it up just now! Click here
I’d still get on a Boeing aircraft after this, it’s just the 737MAX that this is happening to. Boeing is a very reputable manufacturer. Would I be a bit hesitant to get on a 737MAX right away though? Probably. I hope the Boeing execs are actually being serious in what they say and aren’t pulling the classic tactic of “nothing to be afraid of”
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I disagree. Why? Accidents / Incidents have many factors and reasons. If you pull out Pilot Errors, Severe Weather, Mechanics fault and others factors that cause a plane crash then the ratio will be different. We are only talking with Design Flaw and not other factors. The ratio would be different
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Can we like stop arguing about Airbus and Boeing? Like this topic is about Boeing and the MAX not which company has had less crashes.
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