Boeing 787 Family Soft Rework

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PLEASE READ:
This request is for a soft rework of the Boeing 787 family in Infinite Flight, and not a complete rework. The current 787 model is of fairly good quality and does not require a full rework. However, certain improvements and enhancements would greatly improve the overall quality of this aircraft without the need for a complete overhaul.

Boeing 787 Soft Rework

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Credits to Chris Edwards at KBFI

Aircraft Description

Boeing 787: Next-Gen Aircraft Family 787-8 787-9 787-10 New chapter in better shape, shedding weight, economizing on fuels. The Boeing family 787 meets the expectations in commercial flying. It allows airlines to fly longer, with passengers able to have a more relaxed journey because of the additional cabin pressure, bigger windows to look outside from, and less noise.

Development History:

The 787 was to be a very efficient airplane in flying over long distances and with little harm to the environment. When it flew for the first time in 2011, 787 became one of the quick favorite airlines across the world. Boeing has continued advancing the 787 with new technologies, and its performance has grown rapidly. It is among the most wanted planes by the industry. In other words, the 787 family is efficient with long range and passenger comfort, which are meant for operation by flight operators over long distances.

Benefits of a Soft Rework

There are many benefits for a 787 soft rework instead of a complete rework, which are:

  • Improved Physics and Engine Power
  • Improved textures
  • Live instruments & APU
  • More aircraft mechanics (Like early door function for the -9 and -10)
  • Cabin, Cargo bay and other interior details
  • Improved Cockpit textures
  • 3D pilots
  • Improved to a High poly model
  • GE and RR engine options
  • More details and other minor improvements

A soft rework would also improve things from an IF side, And some are very important. Which are:

  • Slim to zero chance of variant removal (Usually happens with complete reworks)

*And most important(to me atleast):

Less time and resources spent on improving the 787. This is important as the saved resources could then be used on other features and aircraft that cannot support a soft rework(Legacy aircraft mostly). instead of re-developing something that is already decent in quality, it could be improved.

Why a Soft Rework and not a Complete Rework?

Recently (at the time this post was created) 24.3 included a 208 soft rework, it turned from a legacy aircraft with a generic image as the cockpit to one of the best GA aircraft out there in IF (in terms of quality). And if this is possible, then i believe that aircraft like the 787 which are newer could recieve a soft rework and not a complete overhaul. The current 787 has many liveries, all 3 variants and very neat details throughout the aircraft. Thus, those details could be improved to be within current quality standard without a need of a complete overhaul. The reasons are stated above in this request.

Conclusion:

I believe that many of us here want the 787 to be updated to current quality, it is one of the most popular and modern aircrafts today, so an update on this aircraft would be lovely.

If you vote, thank you!

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Tbh, the 787 rework is already really close to happening so I don’t see why we need a soft rework

It literally has over a 1000 votes

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Please read the entire thing. it aint just a temporary physics fix or something along the lines.

So TL;DR its just a 787 update to current standard without the need of a complete rework

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Would rather have a full rework than soft rework. Just my opinion.

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People want their aircraft to be improved to the best possible, as soon as possible. This is why i created a request for a soft rework.

In fact, the 208 got a soft rework and became better than ever.

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The C208 was picked by the developers for a soft rework. It had hardly any attention from the community until its rework.

The way I see it, your request doesn’t need to exist since there is already a request with a well established number of votes and support. That request doesn’t specify if it’s a full or soft rework so it’s up to the developers which way they want to go with the rework.

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I understand what your saying, but the 787 in its current state does not need a complete overhaul, but rather some touchups.

Reworks like the A380, 777(Controversial), 757 and A330 did not receive a soft reworks as their older versions weren’t accurate at all.

the 787 and C208 however are very close to IRL, so instead the existing 787 could be improvement without a complete rework. Really no point of reworking an entire aircraft thats not that bad.

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Do you think starting from ground zero with this request will speed up the process of the 787 getting a soft or full rework?

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Itll probably be faster.

But also a soft rework would reduce the chance of variant removals, variants like the -8 and -10 are the least popular in the family. The -10 removal is fine, but the -8 is fairly popular, so if that variant was removed it would be quite dissapointing IMHO

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I believe these make the checklist of a full rework.

At least, things like high poly model, improved cockpit instruments, interiors and animated parts require the model to be made from scratch. Not to mention the current wing model of the 787 looks horrid, and can’t be painted onto.

Physics tuning also takes time, whether you do it as “soft” or “full”. In 2019 the A330 got improved physics during a soft rework, and a few years later it was still remade entirely. So what’s the point of a so-called “soft rework” when you have to do it all over again in the future?

C208 is such a small aircraft compared with B787 family, and it already got a cabin interior before, which made its progress fast. Its success cannot be copied into wide-body jets.

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The amount of polygons could be increased, it is possible just like we’ve seen on the 208 in the first WIP shot, the old 208 exterior fuselage was kept the same but the amount of polygons was increased to a much higher amount.

Also, live instruments, cabin interior and other things dont weight enough for a complete rework. Even though the windows on the 787 are currently 2D, that doesnt mean that implementing a cabin isnt possible. The 737 MAX used the fuselage of the 737-800 (from 2013) as Boeing did not change the design & it still managed to get a cabin. Also the amount of polygons seemed bumped too. Live instruments and animated parts could be done without a complete rework. (though the 787 has most, if not all things animated)

The A330 soft rework in 2019 was basically improving most things without any model “changes”, but the 208 soft rework basically got it up to current standard without a complete revamp. So if the 208 got a soft rework and is now in current quality standard of aircraft in IF, then the same thing could be done to the 787 (possibly other aircraft too). Also i believe the things that were re-done in 2019 on the A330 was then implemented on the new A330 model in 2021

There wont be a need of a complete redo in the future if the soft rework was rather a “full” rework without a complete redo from scratch (not just physics improvements and other things). In fact, the current 787 quality is not that bad at all, there is a decent cockpit, detailed gear, wingflex & gear tilt. So instead of re-doing something thats already decent in quality it could be improved.

Although they arent the same in size, just because it is smaller doesnt mean it’ll progres faster, as the number of polygons would be similar. But since the 208 is smaller there are less details and complex things to model.

This is just my opinion, i may got some things wrong or i misunderstood something.

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My thoughts on this are rather the long run. The 787 could receive some minor improvements, and be at an ‘acceptable’ level, but it would just further delay its chance for a full rework in the future. In other words, having long-term dilapidation for short-term benefits.

The Cessna 208 was also better-designed for a soft rework. The exterior was already at a good quality, and had a full interior - which was mostly what was reworked, along with the animated doors. The 787 would require a full rework either way for it to really make a significant difference, and as the majority would agree (considering there’s not been a soft rework request for this aircraft, and the full rework request has over 1,000 votes), it just doesn’t compare to the C208.

Of course I understand the point of making this topic, although I highly imagine if this aircraft was to recieve a rework, no variants would be removed/forgotten. As FlightGT’s mentioned above, almost all the things mentioned would require significant work or changes to the aircraft model, at which point it isn’t really worth calling a soft rework, and would likely be better starting from scratch to become a flagship aircraft for Infinite Flight.

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Your right, but really it’s up to the developers to choose how to develop this aircraft, because us community members just want it to be the best as possible, and as soon as possible.

The way i see it is that the existing 787 quality is much higher than other planes people want to be reworked, aircraft like the 747, 767 or A340 are nowhere near the 787 quality. So instead of a “soft” rework it could rather be a revamp, since the work needed to bring the existing 787 to current quality wont be quick.

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If you want something to be done well, having a lot of time put into it is required, regardless of how the community views the wait. The A380 may have taken over a year to be completed, but the community was extremely satisfied with it in the end. I’d imagine the community wants nothing more than to see their favorite aircraft in Infinite Flight meet those same expectations.

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I know.

But the 787 in-game is not like the old A380 at all. One is from 2012 and one is from 2016, 4 year difference but massive in quality.

Either way; the staff will decide how to develop the 787, but I hope it’s done without a rework from scratch.

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Even if so, the chances of a full rework would be higher anyways. Most reworked aircraft were reworked after the model reaches 10 years of age or more. Considering what you said (787 model was made in 2016) it is almost at 10 years of age. With the 787 reaching so in 1.5 - 2 years it would just be better to rework it fully.

C208 may have been a “soft” rework but most of it was changed. The only reason it may have been soft was possibly due to it being small along with what Ecoops said:

Just reworking it from scratch would be the best option to apply all of your benefits, especially the Cabin details and door functionality.

If you remember the 777 family rework, they had to remake the whole thing just so they can improve and add the benefits of your 787 topic. They needed to model a Cabin, New Live Cockpit, Animate Doors, Improved textures, Engine Options, Engine and Physic dynamics, and add APU systems.

It would be better to rework it overall and considering the time it will take for the interior, options, physics, a soft rework won’t do much.*

IF can add the 788 or 78X also especially since the 1000 vote rework request is for the -whole family- so they can follow the path of the 777 rework.

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I agree with most of what you said but i’ll comment on a few things.

Its more of a “which aircraft is more in demand” and how good the pre-rework aircraft is.

This isnt entirely true, lately(The last few years) the variants to be added/reworked were always the most popular variants. But once the rework is confirmed we’ll see what variants will be added.

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This blog post also explains a lot about reworks:

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