Hey guys, I have a question, which I hope y’all may be able to help me with:
Way back when the update came out ( not quite sure on the exact one ) where gear tilt came to the Boeing 787 and 747, do you remember that they tilted down the cockpit camera angle on the 787-9?
If I recall correctly, the -8’s looked no different, but the -10’s had not been tilted down, yet instead had been raised upwards, making for quite an unrealistic view.
Furthermore, all C-130s cockpits were affected, in the same way as the 787-9’s.
Fast forwarding to now, after taking a break from the 787 family, I spawned into the -9, to find that the camera angle had been restored to it’s previous state, and the -10’s view point had also been lowered.
I proceeded to check the C-130 variants, but unfortunately the same couldn’t be said.
I’d assumed for a while, Infinite Flight had done this for some reason, to which I could not see, but now after the 787-9’s cockpit has been silently changed back, it once again brings back some suspicion.
I’m certainly glad to have the original camera angles back, but would be very intrigued to hear what you guys have to say regarding this matter.
Hi, I assume you mean the default cockpit view being angled down slightly. I just check the C-130 and I agree it is still angled down.
But I never saw this as a problem because part of the key purpose of cockpit view is the ability to pan your viewing direction.
All the magic happens if you use the HUD in cockpit view. The HUD stays centered on your viewing direction, and with an artificial horizon line right in the middle of your view direction.
So, as you pan your viewing, you can maintain perfect attitude orientation with the panning HUD (even looking way off to the side while looking up or down).
Looking down a bit at takeoff is an option some users may like a bit better because you take in more of the instruments.
Some users may prefer the default view direction to be, like set in most aircraft, starting at the horizontal.
But there’s no flaw or error here as far as I’ve been able to tell. You can just tilt your view up a bit if that’s what you like.
The important point is that the view pan, and the way the HUD works within that, all work correctly, and is very effectively implemented.
edit: the decoupled FPV is the icing on the cake, as it keeps tabs on your direction of travel as your HUD lets you know your view direction as you maintain attitude control (it’s cool to look off to the side while maintaining a controlled climbing turn!)
Heya @adit! Yes I do apologise if I made myself seem unclear.
What I was basically trying to explain, was that the previous cockpit camera angle’s orientation, was so if it was on it’s default position, it would be facing directly out though the middle of the forward facing window.
After the 787-9’s angle was changed, I can see how some pilots would prefer that, but I personally found, that it was more difficult to gather horizontal information relative to the aircraft in that downwards position, hence making it more difficult to fly.
I know you could move the view back up, but it wasn’t very convenient to do this every time you wanted the level view with the window.
Anyway though, I’m not meaning for this to go into a full blown discussion! Just wanted to ask if anyone else noticed what I was seeing.
Why the C-130 family variants weren’t corrected, seems bizarre. However I’m not complaining! Any improvement is good, and I’m aware Infinite Flight have a lot to handle, and can’t fix every little niggle. 🙂
Honestly, it had to with number of user complaints. Now when you mention it, I don’t believe the C-130 have been brought up as much as 10% as the 787 has.
I would strongly agree that nearly all, if not all, pilots expressing a preference would find it a flaw for the view to be pointed down (I’m 50-50 either way with this preference for down or not, as explained at the bottom, “edit”).
So I’m totally ok with:
But I don’t agree this didn’t merit some discussion:
Because it’s very clear from this and prior dialogue on the issue, that the logic of the movable HUD’s use is not well understood, even to the point of its removal being asked for. Which I would be against.
edit: An important point to emphasize about:
With the movable HUD on, this is aways precisely known: The HUD horizon line is the correct and stable reference, at all times and orientations.
The “cognitive dissonance” that throws our eyeballs off is that with the view pointed down, our eyes gravitate to the natural horizon and the HUD horizon being just below it, somehow looks wrong.
But when you go from eyeballs outside to eyeballs inside and onto instruments irl, you don’t question that the horizon on your attitude indicator is not superimposed on the outside horizon.