ATC problem

I’m sorry to say that I was recently flying a SR22 out of Zurich and I was heading north fly VFR then I noticed that there was another aircraft on final for another runway and IFATC Varunsehdev did nothing to stop it I ended up almost having a midair collision with the aircraft. Then on my map I saw lots of aircraft coming in and I was on the approach path so I made my way out of the way but then as I was leaving the controller Varunsehdev told me to climb to 11000ft when my cabin wasn’t pressurised and it was beyond the aircrafts limits. I wanted to press “Unable” but then they said “please expedite change” I didnt know what to do so I decided to just do it and hope I could get out of the frequency or something. But then they told me to expedite altitude change, like cmon its a single engine prop im not an airliner. And then he got MAD and said to follow instructions. So I had to end the flight there. Thank you for listening to what I had to say.

  • Captain Ethan

Hi Ethan!

First of all, welcome to the community!

Then what you’re here for, I’m sorry you had this experience with one of IFATC’s controllers.

However, it is best to, in a situation such as this one, PM a controller instead of making a public post. Conflicts can be resolved more easily there, as there is no interference from others.

All the best to you! :)

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Hey @Captain_Ethan

It’s sad to hear that this has happened to you, here are a few bits of info that might help.

The cirrus SR22 actually has a service ceiling of 17,500 feet, so this command is advisable. IFATC controllers also don’t have to take into account your aircraft and its limitations. If you feel that you can’t perform a procedure a controller asks of you, feel free to use the unable command.

I am sorry you feel this way, don’t worry most time IFATC controllers are not mad at you and they are only sending you a follow instruction command because they need you to follow what they are saying. Remember if you feel that the situation is getting out of hand for you, ending the session will always solve that

Other than that I have pinged @Varunsehdev so in case you can’t send PMs yet he can contact you!

Have a good day!

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I don’t feel like it’s my place to comment on the conflict you brought up, however I can speak into this:

I noticed that you mentioned the controllers name. Then, you went on about how they did whatever you were mentioning. In situations such as these, I would strongly recommend that you reach out to the controller privately, and if things go south, contact an IFATC Supervisor, or a Moderator.

Making these kinds of topics can be taken the wrong way (i.e. trying to get back at the controller) and I not saying you did any of these at all. In the past that’s how it’s felt for me with some of these kinds of topics, and for other controllers I believe as well. I know that you have a good intention with this, which is offering feedback. I feel personally that the best way to handle this would be to reach out privately, and talk it out with them - without public commentary.

Remember, this is just my take on it, and from the experiences I have had with these kinds of topics. I am just here to help, nothing crazy or anything along the lines off that. Have a nice afternoon. :)

One more thing, we are not out to get you guys. Almost all the time, we are looking for ways to help you all get to where you want to be. However, with the safest and most ideal way possible that will not sacrifice the integrity and operations of the airport.

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If you’re VFR, it’s up to you as the pilot to maintain appropriate aircraft separation.


“See and avoid”

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