@infiniteflight I was on expert server just now and I have to rage quit because I was number four to land and a plane entered the ILS illegally flying through other planes including mine and tower just Let me go around and have him land after I was one hour and a half in circling because the airspace was full but you guys just let rookies on the server and just do what they want and have professional and the server have to be going around. It’s so frustrated. You guys need to get that fixed.
Hey there. I’m sorry this happened to you. But the IFC is not the place to rant. Further more, you don’t have to “rage quite” just because someone was unrealistic in a video game. I think maybe you’re taking it a “little” too seriously. It’s just a game, and at the moment, the high levels of traffic means that users will go unnoticed, especially because this isn’t normal, nor are the controllers perfect. If you have a specific problem with ATC, then feel free to reach out privately to the controller or ATC supervisors.
At the moment, there are several topics, both open and active, as well as recently closed, voicing opinions about the IFATC standards. Some, like yourself, wish for a stricter enforcement of the rules. Others wish for lighter sentencing and rare use of the report button. As with every spectrum of which neither side is objectively right, we try to walk a middle line, and thus some people might get reported who shouldn’t, and some people might get away with unrealistic behavior. That’s simply how it works, and for the most part these are rare and not the norm.
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The ATC should have been aware of what was happening that’s the literal job of a tower controller. The violator should have been kicked on the spot and allowing him to land is just pure insanity. I understand these are not the norms and things may slip out but if someone clearly violates the rules they should be kicked immediately or even get reported after the session because these rookies have zero respect for other users and they will keep on doing it if they go unpunished. I think op rage quit was perfectly valid and letting him express his frustration is also valid.
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Can you post images of plane flying through how many planes exactly? Or was it just yours, because no way someone gets away with something as blatant as this sounds.
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Hey, I would recommend double checking the replay to make sure you have everything completely as you say. If you do, you can find the controller name in the replay file as “com 1” and send them a DM.
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honestly im going to have to disagree with you. IFC is the place to share your respectful opinions, this forum isnt just for plane pictures, its where the community gathers and shares their thoughts to improve the simulator experience. as stated, he did not rage quit because someone was unrealistic, he rage quit because he was inconvenienced and had to go around unnecessarily. idk about you, but going around can be frustrating sometimes and if you’re on a time crunch just trying to get the plane down, it becomes even more frustrating.
this is not just a video game, its a sim. theres many plane video games people can go play if thats what they wanted. we spawn on the expert server on our sim expecting the closest experience we can get to real life aviation. a lot of my knowledge of real world flying and being a private pilot came from this simulator, its most definitely not just a video game.
controllers are definitely not perfect but you can also most definitely understand his frustration. we as IFATC go through a written and practical test, then once passing those, we are on a probation period where supervisors spawn in and watch how we’re doing and only then are we given access to control busier airports. lastly, we have the holy grail of buttons, the report button. if all of this occurs but you’re still cut off by someone on final and you are the only that is inconvenienced in a controlled airspace, then frustration is due.
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I agree that controllers, as pilots are, should be held accountable for their actions.
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Not needed. Nothing that a DM or an IFC topic every week can’t solve.
Also to the OP, please join IFATC
PS - This response is completely sarcastic
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As a matter of fact you too @Kstate 
Hey there, @keason! 
I completely understand your frustration — situations like that can definitely be discouraging, especially after spending a long time in the pattern.
Just to clarify, the Expert Server is staffed by IFATC controllers, and we always aim to maintain realism and fairness. However, sometimes pilots who do not follow proper procedures (like cutting into the ILS or ignoring sequencing) can create difficult situations for both ATC and other pilots.
Please feel free to send a message to the controller involved after your flight to see what went wrong and have a discussion about what happened — we’re always happy to review and clarify for our pilots.
Our goal is to keep the skies as professional and realistic as possible, and feedback like yours helps us continue improving. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!
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Hey, it’s another topic that literally proves my point. I had to chime in
I love sarcasm
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IFC users must do better with grammar.
jokes aside I think I agree with your point to some extent
Lol since they locked us from the one you created it, i think it was you. I just know you were very active and they locked it down lol
There needs to be a standard tho…… and its not being followed.
I think thats his entire point
That’s not fair, maybe from another country using a translate app. I bet if you write something in excellent english and use google translate to their language, they will also crap on your grammar. As a grammar policemen, you should know that.
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But it’s not really fair to judge without evidence showing the actual circumstances surrounding what was reported, also taking into account traffic operation density relative to controller staffing.
In addition, irl a controller would not have to be as on guard against “unprofessional pilots”. Of course they would have to be on guard, but the variability of pilot conduct due to training and certification and irl implications would likely be far less, causing less dispersion of focus.
I mean, should controllers be given a golf-like handicap relative to higher than irl density environments that are presumably amplified in a sim environment by clustering around staffed airports?
That’s just a hypothetical to underline some inevitable differences from irl situations that need to be circumnavigated: The above would presumably be too unwieldy. If so, then “holding accountable”, more than as already built into the system means? I can’t really see. (not wanting to continue the closed topic though..)
It’s just too complicated to put controller operations in the same basket as pilot operations.
The system works well given the nature of the environment.
To be honest, this kind of thing has happened to me as well. At that time, I was on the ground and noticed that two aircraft were overlapping, and it wasn’t due to a network issue. However, because of the heavy workload, I couldn’t monitor who passed through whom, so I wasn’t able to report them. I think the solution is to advocate for the use of the split function at local.
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I bet if I Google translated something I’d also run it through a grammar checker made for that language.
As a fairness policeman you should know that.
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Couldn’t agree more. Well said 
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Is it possible they lost connection then reappeared? Should pilots be sanctioned in these scenarios? It’s not always as clear cut as you may think.
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