A few moments ago ATC @Jamel_K was quite humble with reporting or even contacting an obvious rules breaking player.
He spawned right next to the runway and moved between the aircrafts like he’s still on CS (66hrs of flight time). He entered the runway without clearance and took off without one. But the interesting thing is that the ATC didn’t make any alert or warning callouts to him. It would be interesting to know why not.
Hello!
It might have been due to any reason, really. However, instead of publicly making this topic against the controller and the pilot, it would be better to contact the controller and discuss with them in a civil way to know what went wrong. I suggest you to take a look att his topic:
Thanks!
Hey there!
After having a clear look at the replay, this pilot has, indeed, taxied through you and another aircraft. I apologies for not seeing it. At this moment, I had already given three violations and I had several aircraft taxiing through others/grass, so you can guess a good part of them were quite bad.
However, the pilot you are reporting to me never “entered the runway without clearance and took off without one” as i cleared him.
Thank you for reporting it and I apologise for the bad experience.
I didn’t make this topic “against” the ATC, I just wanted to make him aware of the situation.
Right, a PM would’ve done the job, too.
Maybe I should have used another word; my apologies. However, making a public topic would not help most of the time. Instead, sending a PM to the controller (or another pilot/IFC user) is better since they may have a clearer view of the situation or simply a different POV.
I was wondering why you didn’t react because he stood like that for some time.
I just checked the radio record and yes, he got a takeoff clearance but without getting one to enter the runway. I know that because he lined up right behind without asking permission to enter the runway.
No big deal. Just wanted to bring that out because those “players” are ruining everyone’s experience who plays by the rules - and therefor they should be “grounded”.
Note that a take off clearance allows an aircraft to enter the runway as well. Anyway, in this case, they got a LUAW (line up and wait) command before the take off clearance as the previous aircraft was not airborne yet.
But yes, I do understand your point. The option to give a violation to a pilot is precisely to “ground” them.
Hope I was able to help you understanding the situation. If you have any further questions, feel free to send me a PM!
Best regards.
Why can’t we publicly comment on ATC? I don’t understand what you’re trying to hide. Many years ago, I received a level 3 report — that ATC was extremely unprofessional. Another aircraft suddenly cut into my flight path, and I even tried to avoid it, yet I still got reported. I contacted the ATC, but the way he spoke was very rude. I don’t think it’s a good idea to directly contact controllers. In the early days, there were a small number of people who abused their authority
There are procedures in place now as Jinco linked in the first reply on this thread. If you want to talk to a controller, the procedure is the message them privately.
The issue with public threads is people (particularly if they aren’t a part of IFATC) coming in and laying in an opinion without knowing what the situation was, to whichever side. That’s why its best dealt with privately as the controller is the only one other than the pilot who can give an accurate read of the situation, and therefore the only one who can provide the appropriate response.
If, and only if it needs to be escalated for whatever reason, then there is the option to contact the IFATC Moderators who will then handle it from there. If there is evidence of abuse of authority, rest assured they will deal with it.
Thank you for the explanation, but I must be honest — I find the current system lacking in transparency. As players, we’re not trying to attack controllers, but we do believe there should be room for fair and open discussion, especially when a report feels unjust.
The issue is not just about private messaging — it’s about accountability. When ATC makes a mistake or abuses authority, it often goes unnoticed because there is no public way to bring awareness or feedback. In my past experience, I was reported unfairly and the controller was extremely rude when I reached out. That kind of behavior should not be protected by a private-only system.
We’re not asking to start arguments or name-and-shame anyone, but a more transparent process — where respectful, fact-based discussion is allowed — would go a long way in improving trust between pilots and controllers.
Infinite flight has never been fair to me if someone taxis through me even when I have taxi clearance I get a violation when the other person should’ve gotten a violation for taxing through me, I don’t even know why am I still here, the infinite flight staff just aren’t fair in some situations.
That’s correct, a takeoff clearance is also a clearance to enter the runway, but as I said, he was lining up behind me while I was waiting to get the takeoff clearance. And he got his after I got mine so he entered without permission.
Never mind. Next time I’ll clear that up in a PM.
Hello!
I’ll try to give my honest opinion and point of view too.
As Ben said, there are some procedures that have to be followed now. This isn’t to hide something; we have nothing to hide, anyway, and every controller is monitored by Appeals Team members, Supervisors and Moderators.
I’m sorry to hear you had a bad experience with a rude controller; however, as you said, this was many years ago. Things could have (and definitely did) change, not only with that specific controller but with IFATC in general. I’ve been part of IFATC for a couple of years now, and I’ve seen very few and rare cases of controllers abusing their authority (most of the time, this was abuse of the report button). Yes, outside of IFATC, this could maybe go unnoticed, but inside of it, it doesn’t, and such issues are immediately addressed, and the person who made such mistakes is informed on how to improve. While yes, the experience you had was not good, it is only a one-time occurrence, as far as I’ve seen. Most of the controllers, when you reach out, will explain everything to you professionally and in a civil way and will also invite the Appeals Team to the message if you wish to do so. I personally know some controllers who even reach out themselves to other pilots to let them learn from their mistakes.
I feel like sending a private message to another controller or pilot would be better. I’m sure you, or the OP, are not attacking the people you are talking about in the topics/posts you made, however, I’ve seen countless topics of this kind, and most of the time, they came off as rude or inappropriate. Since there are new procedures in use now, compared to many years ago, a private message is the way to go. While discussing publicly about a recurrent issue with anything in general is fine, why would discussing an issue only you and the controller know about (since you faced such issue in first person) publicly be better than doing so privately? The people on this forum would not have an idea of what happened, and they may start telling ideas/theories of what could have happened, start to blame one rather than the other, and so on. Instead, with a private message, you can easily discuss with the person you had issues with and, from there, understand better what happened. If it ever happens that the person you are talking to in a PM is rude, inappropriate or similar, you are more than free to flag their message. This will send a notification to a Moderator, who will be then able to see the message and take action from there.
Hope my message was clear enough. In my first post here, I admit I could use another word instead of “against”, and I knew the OP was not mad at the controller, or anything like that. Simply, I was letting them know that contacting the controller privately is better than making a public topic.
Thank you! 
I understand your intensions, it was not your fault. But try to understand ATC controllers are also human not robot, they also make mistakes. Not everyone is 100% perfect. I hope you understand you better understand 
Thats the problem though so many infinite flight staff members know the atc controllers and would their side over the pilots who have done nothing wrong and then some of the infinite flight staff member would be sarcastic and or rude about the situation which isn’t fair I and many other are paying 10 bucks to get the experience the pilots are experiencing in real life, but it’s just not worth getting reported for no reason this absolutely not fair, then when I get rude back their like be nice to infinite flight staff you guys literally need to do better it shouldn’t matter on whose your friend or not it’s about being fair towards each other
I agree they make mistakes but I have received a violation which is going to stick on my record which I should have not received the tower gave me clearance to taxi and another plane taxied through me and I try appealing the violation and the staff member said no it would not be appealed that same staff member probably knows the person running the tower, would you guys be able to make a report tower and staff member button???
I would like to make it public rather than private and I have lost all fate in infinite flight staff
I understand your intentions and if this happens to you again in any scenario tou can contact @Jinco
I hope you matter should be resolved.
Question… if you don’t like Infinite Flight, why spend your time saying you don’t like it instead of playing a different flight simulator? No one is forcing you to be here, taking up Jinco’s time and disrespecting IFATC. Criticism is of course always welcome, but we seem to be stuck here in a loop.
And that is why the appeals system exists.
This is just silly to me. Controllers are trained, went through exams to be where they are. We still are all human and make mistakes, and so, read the rules and get it appealed if you believe you were right
As for staff, they are the most trusted people on here. Being able to report a staff member just doesn’t make sense. Not only does that mean you’re probably the one in the wrong, but where would that report go to? Staff?
