An adventurous command

I don’t understand why the takeoffs and landings of the two aircraft were scheduled so closely together without regard for safety.

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Hello,
At busy airports, tower controllers are responsible for quickly clearing aircraft waiting for takeoff and safely landing incoming aircraft. Occasionally, such close approaches may occur. The tower is constantly monitoring the situation, and this entirely depends on their timing and discretion. If the tower deems it unsafe, they may issue a Go Around to the landing aircraft and Cancel Takeoff to the departing aircraft. In reality, everything is planned to be safe. It just appears intense to you.
Have a Good day! :slightly_smiling_face:

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adding a bit of dogac’s statement, sometimes when the landing aircraft has already passed the aircraft that waiting on the hold short line, the aircraft that has been instructed to line up and wait took so long to lined up on the runway or if they’ve already cleared for T/O they took so long to commence they T/O roll, hence the distance between landing aircraft and departing aircraft can be that close

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Someone check my numbers maybe, but that NDB the landing aircraft is approaching is nearly 3km from the touchdown zone, but the landing aircraft is still approaching the NDB, so it’s maybe about 3.5 to 4.0 km away.

At say typical approach speeds that’s about 40 seconds from touchdown.

The departing aircraft appears to be rolling, so the gap doesn’t look unreasonable.

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It seems to me that less than about a runway length between two aircrafts never happens IRL. Way too close I think.

Even with no wake turbulence overlap issue? If wake turbulence were a factor you need more separation safety margin I think, but this is runway usage timing without that complication, which allows for tighter timing?

Ah, ok, but I think we ought to maintain larger gaps, even when airports are busy. We have no turbulence (for now, who knows in the future :wink: ), but I still think bigger gaps are better for pilots. We need not be under more pressure/stress than actual professionnals! I prefer to wait a bit more…

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By just eyeballing it, it’s possible to determine that this gap is too close, unless the departure was rolling at an unexpectedly high speed. Arrival needs to go around and the departure needs to cancel takeoff to avoid a loss of separation.

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if the departure aircraft is rolling then it will not effect the arrival aircraft bcz the same distance will be maintained might be more, departure aircraft have to accelerate meanwhile arrival have to slow down the speed for perfect landing and IFATC have full focus on this type of situation to prevent the conflict

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