314 Boeing 737 MAX Orders Were Cancelled In 2020

Boeing has released its first quarter 2020 orders/deliveries, which includes more 737 MAX cancellations.


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This was definitely not a great start to the year for Boeing, even pre-COVID-19.

150 Boeing 737 MAX orders were cancelled in March 2020:

  • 75 Avolon Aerospace MAXs
  • 34 Gol Linhas Aéreas 737 MAXs.
  • 5 Smartwings
  • 36 Undisclosed

The Gol cancellation was just revealed today. This will leave Gol with 101 737 MAX orders/deliveries remaining.

Previous known cancellations:

  • 9x Air Canada 737 MAX 9s
  • 10x Oman Air 737 MAX 8s
  • 9x AerCap 737 MAXs
  • 10x Japan Investment Adviser MAX 8s
  • 1x Private MAX BBJ

To make things worse, Boeing had a net loss of 307 orders for the first quarter of 2020. This includes conversions and other contract agreements.

Sources/Images

Gol MAX: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9472102

Info:
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/#/orders-deliveries
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-deliveries/boeing-737-max-cancellations-mount-amid-production-halt-idUSKCN21W247

With COVID-19 also affecting Boeing’s production, getting the MAX’s back into the air may be a bigger problem.

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Good.

~ This post was made by an Airbus fan ~

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I mean…

Both manufacturers are significantly affected. I’d expect more cancellations from both soon.

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Well it’s hard to show this as good any way you roll the dice. I suppose in a fan boy way this is good, but that’s (in my opinion) very flawed thinking. Both of these companies need each other to succeed to some level for there own advancement. And even beyond the long term play, it’s not like these airlines switched to A32XNs there just dropping aircraft which doesn’t work out as a positive for isn’t industry any way you shake it. Airbus is also bleeding orders too…

To be honest, I’m not that much of a fanboy. I love flying with Boeing aircraft - I just don’t like the way they’ve dealed with this MAX situation.

I don’t either, but these lost orders don’t benefit anyone… 🤷🏻‍♂️

They do in some way benefit the people of the world. I know countless people who are still scared and don’t want to ever board this flawed aircraft again in the fear of losing their lives.

With every cloud there is a silver lining. In this case, the lesson learned here is to not fall for corporate greed, or else it comes back and bites you…they thought they could get away with all the cost cutting by turning out a sub-optimal, unsafe product, well guess what? Worldwide grounding, order losses, 300+ grieving families and a stain on company image have resulted from the debacle. Lesson learnt?

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Well said @TOGA. And with COVID-19 behind its back, Boeing now have an extra whammy.

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Extra whammy indeed…

I mean sum what more broadly than individual passengers. In all likelihood the MAX will return to the skies, and give it some time and anyone who is scared of it will be the minority by far, and I’d be willing to bet that the vast majority of people won’t even know the 737MAX name in a year, and they sure as heck won’t know one by sight. I mean the DC-10 went in to fly for years, and it also had some bad timing with the rise of twins, but it in large part was able to move on. Boeing and airlines hurting doesn’t benefit anyone is what I was trying to say…

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Airlines hurting, no. But with Boeing hurting, as @TOGA said, they’ve hopefully learned their lesson and won’t-

Just read @TOGA’s post :D

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Well uhhhh…

Then imagine the whole neighborhood goes up in flames and all of the firetrucks have broken down.

Thats what we have here.

They learned their lessons a year ago. Boeing hurting to the level they are now, that’s not what anyone needs. Imagine how terrible it will be for this industry if Boeing collapses? Actually think about it, it goes a lot deeper than lesson learned, or Airbus win. There parts help support 13,000 other business, and 1.3 million jobs down the supply chain around the world. And that’s in addition to the 145,000 or so employees directly on there payroll. They alone contribute a staggering 1% to the US GDP directly. Not to mention the fine line between Boeing and Airbus constantly pushing each other. Without Boeing making the 787 there would be no A350, without the A350 there probably wouldn’t be a 777x, or at least the form we know. What I’m trying to say if that without both players, and both being strong players we don’t get newer more efficient planes, and planes are more expensive, which means higher ticket prices. If Boeing collapsed, which still looks unlikely but this is definitely the closest they’ve come in a long time who steps up? Like for real, who else is going to be making wide body airliners any time soon?

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I mean I’m serious though. In this industry who actually benefits from a weak Boeing? Realistically no one… 🤷🏻‍♂️

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I don’t deny that it will eventually return to service, but man, this will be a long, gruelling process getting it flying again. Not everyone’s particularly trusting of the FAA given they were the last to ground the 737MAX. Do also remember that the DC10 wasn’t an overstretched, compromised design, which is why even to this day it’s a safe aircraft. Can’t compare apples and oranges here.

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Honestly not sure what’s going on, but I think I kinda screwed this up.

Apparently Boeing lost 314 737 MAX orders in 2020 and the 150 were specifically from March? 🤔

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Well wait. The MAX isn’t actually a compromised design. The plane flies fine, just not like an NG or classic. That’s where the problems arose. The plane flies just fine without MCAS, it’s not a fundamentally flawed design. But that is in no way to say there were not mistakes. Just to say that while the plane has serious flaws it’s not a flawed design fundamentally…

It unfortunately doesn’t. The engines are mounted higher up (so it wouldn’t touch the ground) due to the bigger size of the more efficient LEAP-1B engines which disrupts the aerodynamics and make the aircraft difficult to fly (and basically stall) without the new flawed MCAS system.

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