250 knot speed limit

Real World Aviation
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Bravo and F airports do not exist here in France. Some airspaces even have an extra speed restriction (below 140 knots under 3000 feet for VFR trafic of visibility is below 5000m).

Here how it works in Europe:
A: IFR ONLY in most airspaces, VFR if cleared by the ATC. lateral and vertical separation between IFR planes. ATC available and communicating with the ATC is mandatory, clearances are also mandatory. 250 below 10 000 feet.

B: IFR mostly, all kind of VFR allowed. Lateral and vertical separation between IFR/ IFR, IFR/ VFR and VFR/VFR planes. ATC available and communicating with the ATC is mandatory, clearances are also mandatory. 250 below 10 000 feet.

C: B: IFR and all kind of VFR allowed. Lateral and vertical separation between IFR planes and between VFR/ IFR. ATC available for IFR and VFR planes, a FIS* is also available. Communicating with the ATC is mandatory, clearances are also mandatory. 250 below 10 000 feet.

D: IFR and VFR/ SVFR allowed. Lateral and vertical separation between IFR planes and between SVFR/ IFR. ATC available for IFR and SVFR planes, a FIS* is also available. Communicating with the ATC is mandatory, clearances are also mandatory. 250 below 10 000 feet.

E: IFR/ VFR. Lateral and vertical separation between IFR planes only. ATC available for IFR and SVFR planes, a FIS* may be available. Communicating with the ATC is mandatory (IFR only), clearances are also mandatory (IFR only). 250 below 10 000 feet.

F: IFR/ VFR. Lateral and vertical separation between IFR planes may be provided. No ATC service available. A LAA is available for IFR planes, a FIS* is available for VFR planes. Communicating with the LAA is mandatory (IFR only). 250 below 10 000 feet.

G: IFR/ VFR. Lateral and vertical separation will not be provided. No ATC service available. A FIS* is available for IFR/ VFR planes. Communicating with the FIS is mandatory (IFR only). 250 below 10 000 feet.

  • The FIS may suggest a flight path to avoid an obstacle if asked to.

I hope this is clear enough; sorry for writing such a long text but it couldn’t be shorter :)

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@Axel_Beder- Thanks Axel. Conclude the data is from EASA, keep forgetting the EU has its own FAA type agency now. These regulations extracts are very useful I’ve never flown in European airspace only the states and the Far East.
I’ll take a closer look at EASA now with inter-regional flight now being considered for IF. As a courtesy Please add @Tyler_Shelton to your post. He may not of consider EASA Regs as a source for future IF ATC planning.

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I agree. There is no such thing in real world. And, this makes the fighter jets useless in ATC playground and Advanced.

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I would rather hope that the 250 under 10k rule doesn’t apply for fighters

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No there is such thing. It is a real FAA rule that all pilots have to follow. Flight radars show it in airspeed that’s what I as asking in this post.

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I can’t say if this is 100% true, but I took a physics class in college, and we talked about the vortices that are created as an airliner flies. The faster the plane is flying, the more powerful and pontentially dangerous the vorticy is.

In essance, when a pane flies really fast, it leaves behind spinning vortices of energy that will disrupt something that is in the area where the vorticy is. That is why you can see the photos of the clouds with spirals in them like this:http://strangesounds.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/wake-vortex-airplane.jpg

If a plane flies too fast, and leaves a vorticy, than another plane flying within the path of that vorticy can experience extreme turbulence, and potentially crash. The turbulence is known as “wake turbulence”. It was what had a role in bringing down American Airlines flight 587 American Airlines Flight 587 - Wikipedia

Of course, this would not be an issue in IF, since I don’t think it is programmed into the game, but in the real world, it is something to be weary of. In a congested airspace like in NYC or London, it would be something to think of. To keep IF realistic, it makes sense to have such a rule.

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If one day we have Wake Turbulence in IF, RIP Close Quarter Group Flights 😂

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No.

Fighter Jets can still fly over 250 knots out side the airspaces below 10000ft.

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Thats ground speed

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Beacause no one can see them so well might as well speed

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Yeah, when taking off, it should let u reach the 300kts and then lower it when possible. It’s almost impossible not to hit the 250kts when using wide-body planes, after takeoff.

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I know disagree with that statement. I haven’t had trouble since in heavies going over the speed limit.

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That is incorrect.
Are you taking off with full power?
You can easily keep it under 200 kts.

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How? I have trouble getting planes past 210 on a good day. Throttle control is crucial.

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