17 years ago AA587

Today marks the 17th years since AA587 crashed into a neighborhood in New York.
Pray for the families who died on that flight.
Have a safe and good day.
-Jack
image https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587

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Due to pilot error and bad training done by the American Airlines is the cause if I’m correct.
I saw this on Mayday like two years ago.

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Nope, just read it, it was an A300

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That a A300

It was Airbus’s fault. The flight encountered wake turbulence from a departing JAL 747 and according to the AAL manual, the proper procedure is to jam the rudder from side to side… (makes no sense). This caused the entire vertical stabilizer to rip off, and the jet plummeted into the ground. Airbus was later blamed because it was discovered that they had told AAL that that was proper procedure. Technically pilot error, but not the pilot’s fault.

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What I’ve heard is that the aircraft took off way to quickly after a JAL 747, and caused a lot of wake turbulence from the aircraft. The pilots then applied way to much rudder to compensate the extreme turbulence, eventually ripping the tail right off the plane, which obviously caused the tragedy.

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Damn it was a time of chaos because of 9/11. Rest In Peace to all those people in this incident.

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It’s hard believing that this accident happened so close to my home. May all the souls rest in peace. already for 17 years lol

Airbus most certainly did not tell AA that the proper procedure was going rudder hard over from one extreme to the other to counter wake turbulence.

Have a read of the NTSB report https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAR0404.pdf

Man, I don’t have time to read that… Anyway, I got my info from Air Crash Investigation.

Read this article, it covers the gist of it.

https://www.foxnews.com/story/ntsb-pilot-error-caused-flight-587-crash

Airbus says it told American a number of times and in a number of ways that the airline was improperly training pilots about how to use the rudder.

For example, a letter dated Aug. 20, 1997, warned American chief pilot Cecil Ewing that rudders should not be moved abruptly to right a jetliner or when a plane is flown at a sharp angle. The letter was signed by representatives from The Boeing Co., the Federal Aviation Administration and Airbus.

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Aggressive rudder control was part of AA’s training and not something Airbus had told any airline to do for any situation. As noted in the program (and kindly posted by @Transport_Hub above) Airbus had already written to AA with their concerns about their training. AA argues Airbus had not made it explicitly clear the rudder was sensitive in-flight and couldn’t be used that aggressively without over-stressing it.

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I looked back on the photos of N14053, the airplane involved in the crash, and it just saddens me as the airplane looked really nice.

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